Weekender: Prodos Revolutionising Mini Casts & New Firestorm Taskforce
April 2, 2016 by dignity
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Spartan Games' Firestorm Taskforce
Lloyd sits down with Neil Fawcett of Spartan Games to talk about this new version of Firestorm called Taskforce where you get to scale down your games and fight out smaller skirmishes.
American War of Independence Series Starting Soon
Oriskany and Chrisg from the community have been working on a fantastic new article series exploring the history and gaming potential of the War of Independence.
We got a chat with Oriskany to see where this series is going and find out what's in store.
Prodos Games Interviewed
Prodos Games were also in the studio this week and we've got a sit down chat with Jarek about the future of Warzone, the development of Alien Vs Predator (AvP) and also a discussion on the Space Crusade line.
IndieGoGo Time
Last but not least we thought we'd direct you to a cool IndieGoGo from Kontraros Collectibles for their 54mm Mummy Queen. See what you think.
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First comment is mine, muhahahahahaaaa
I’m so proud :’)
Happy Weekend!
Solid minis, i think they look good!
Nice show guys, a good start for the weekend!
I did a little bit on one of my videos about the Prodos Games Miniatures, and I have to say I was pretty disappointed by Dakka Dakka, they tore them to shreds, saying that they were the worst kind of cheese cake models you could ever see. But you know I think there not that bad, I like them, Sisters are getting the short end of the stick and I would love to see more people doing female models, and it seems that if it is vaguely sexual it is smutty, but if it to bland it is too masculine.… Read more »
There is no doubt it’s tricky to get the balance right, it’s a very emotive and subjective thing and something that is very much at the front of our minds these days.
But I think ‘reactionism’ should be tempered, and folk should be more understanding that not every product is for them, and if there is something to be discussed or debated, take the time to be able to clearly articulate it – otherwise we just go round in circles 🙂
@warzan I agree, I just wish that some of the bigger companies would do more mix pack model kits… To give an example, I love Games-workshop (GW) for conversion, I can make every kind of adventurer I want, from guys flying from the heavens with axes and great beards, or guys sneaking about looking all conspicuous. But the minute I want a lad… try doing up a lady and your options get reduced to wood elves, dark elves, and dark eldar… :/ I just want more lady models, I want more models where I can make the badass ladies of… Read more »
I believe we’re getting there, step by step, but it’s progress at least 🙂
I think Malifaux, Wolsung and Wild West Exodus have the right mix; they have a lot of awesome female miniatures. Dice Bag Lady does a good job of pulling together a lot of the female miniatures out there; I have her to thank for a number of interesting female Vikings in my Saga war band. However, I am distinctly lacking females in my Kings of War Goblin army.
@gri3elda That is true, but they aren’t as friendly to the conversion crowd, as most models are heroic scale and they are realistic.
Well I have some good news for you. Raging Heroes is almost entirely focused on women armies. There is a demand for them if you just look at the kickstarters they did. What separates the models from Space Crusader and Raging Heroes is the flavor. RH models can and some are very sexy but they seem to still come off tasteful. The SC models at least in the two player box set just look tacky. They have full armour except for on the torso and groin. Obvious bikini gear is best for them. I think they could have done sexy… Read more »
I should state that I do support their choice to make models, art and such as they wish. Just as long as they keep in mind we all have a choice to buy or not buy that product. If the majority don’t like an item, they can always go back to the chalkboard and start again.
I truly do like the quality of the models they make. The new process they came up is great! I hope this will set a new trend with them and this casting goes into the other ranges.
It’s not just tricky it’s impossible when it comes to female miniatures I have noticed that there are far more varied attitudes and you simply cannot please them all. For example, most people have very little concern for how a miniature’s pose “portrays” a male character or how practical (or indeed, impractical) their outfit and equipment might be. When it comes to female miniatures we do and this is where the differences in opinion arise. It’s also worth pointing out that different opinions are not limited to specific genders either. Some people like sexy female miniatures, some people want female… Read more »
@onlyonepinman I think your spot on there. I think there is the same sort of concern with male models sometimes, but there is never the same sort of vocal outcry. But when it comes to female models, regardless of its quality, where it falls on the spectrum, there is always a vocal response. Sometimes that response is good, but for the most part it is bad. Here is what I remember Theodore Sturgeon’s line defending Science Fiction, ‘ninety percent of everything is crap’. If we want good female models we’re going to have to have bad ones as well.
there’s never outcry about males, because we don’t care that much about how males are respresented in media especially when compared to female representations.
There’s no real equivalent to the stripperific outfits for men either, which makes it impossible to do something that feels as bad as the boob armour for female models.
I suspect part of the reason is that there’s a genetic/biological function associated with the female upper body that isn’t present in the human male.
There is. The furry underpants Barbarian; every bit as impractical as stripper armour.
I’ve always liked the look of Firestorm. Taskforce makes it look a lot more tempting. I might try and “sell” this to my Sunday gaming folks. Off to the footie today, I’ll catch the rest later.
Happy weekend all!
Sorry that’s a reply to your Prodos post, @caladors. It’s early and I’m an idiot.
Send coffee
Np man, do you mean Firestorm Armada? I am afraid I am not following.
The lack of sleep gets to all of us.
Thanks for your understanding of my early morning comment blunder 🙂
I love the idea of Firestorm Armada, but Firestorm taskforce makes it more appealing – an easier game to sell to gaming group.
Yeah. I agree. I really like the looka nad feel of Firestorm. But it’s been hard to sell it to my group.
I picked up a fleet with the agreement a few others would too.
It’s currently sitting upstairs waiting being primed due to noone else biting. 🙁
In my mind there are a lot of reasons to tear the initial showing of Prodos Space crusade to shreds. A decent sized company in this cottage industry doing a 40k clone and one that looks like a porn parody at that. Prodos for all their numerous faults make some cracking minis, but these seemed lazy and vulgar. And this isn’t boob fear, show me a mini of a sucubus or one of the GW demonettes mentioned in the interview and I have no problem with them being naked. What I have issue with is that these women wearing heavy… Read more »
I get what your saying, I do like a lot of the PG-13 versions more, except for the Chaos side, I think they make sense in a way if your following the logic? My fear is more this, we are going to have two camps, the Kingdoms Death porn star models, who are beautifully sculpted for every fantasy…, and then the super realistic models where it is no fun no time, we are at war all the time. We allow men to have stupid designs all the time, a classic case is Kharn from 40k his model has stood the… Read more »
Re chaos ones – I’m there with you in part, Their demons etc Re Khan – sorry but I don’t see the comparison with the space crusades bikini marines? In fact I can’t think of any male power armoured mini running around in similar attire, e.g power armour arms, boots but just in a banana hammock for rest of him. Now that’s a mental image I’ll never be able to get rid of. 🙂 Re female minis – Raging heroes(close to the line but don’t go over it for me), Vic Minis, Hasslefree are all making sci fi figs of… Read more »
I’ve been a fan of Prodos stuff for awhile. But not gotten any yet. That’ll change at the end of the month when I host a Warzone Boot Camp (idea stolen from your good selves) with a few friends!
Well, I’ve just found something else I really want to paint. Really nice looking, detailed models.
Those sculpts looks fantastic
Most epic wolf riders ever!
happy weekend.
them minis are begging me to paint them 😉
There a lot of colors in the world, not just browns, blacks and greys. Cheers to the colorful gaming board!
Is it just me, or is an hour and fifty minutes beginning to look a bit of a slog to get through? I do like the various interviews etc, but why not set them up as separate episodes and keep the weekender leaner with links to othger parts that are easdier to swallow in chunks across a Saturday? It’s not the content, it’s the packaging. Other’s thoughts either way welcomed as replies…
Technically it’s alot more work (post making etc), more rendering, more into making, more uploading, more annotating, more branding etc
Or we could push a bit of the work towards viewers and let them skip a bit with a single click. 🙂
In an ideal world it would be different, but work load and also the complexity of YouTube’s algorithms for highlighting content… Push it out of our reach at the moment 🙂
I look forward to the longer shows. More value for money baby, yeah! 😀
I’m really looking forward to @oriskany & @chrisg doing the AWI thing 😎
Prodos’ explanation seems believable, guess most of it was/ is lack of communication (as nearly always). In any case I think I’ll give AVP a try at some stage.
I have been intrigued by the Firestorm Armada models since I first saw them about 4 years ago. I like the looks of the new optional rules.
The American War of Independence series sounds great, I’m really looking forward to it, thanks guys!
Check out the last bit of the article for some Period Tactics Justin. http://www.beastsofwar.com/muskets-tomahawks/french-indian-war-part-two-defending-fort-necessity/
Looking forward to the series Oriskany you’re one of the most knowledgeable people when it comes to the Revolution I know and 6mm gaming might just push me over the edge to try it
It has been a fantastic week of Infinity, now for the Weekender
Happy weekend
OK guys thanks for another show. A brave choice giving Prodos so much time! It’s good to give them the oportunity to talk. I am generally underwhelmed by Prodos though. There are too many other games and models makers out there to support without all the “Prodos issues”.
But again well done for giving them space to put forward there story of the events.
I’m going to need to look more into this new Firestorm game, I have the starter set from Armada and love the look of the Terran ships, but the rules got a little confusing, so the game got moved to the side. I also didn’t see anything wrong with the original Space Crusade models, but that’s just my opinion, if you don’t like something don’t get it. My ex girlfriend liked playing D&D with a female barbarian I had painted up for her.
The Infinity table is amazing! Off to paint some of my terrain!
It was cool!
Mummy mummy queen yes!!have a thing for undead and Egyptian stuff.may try and convince significant other that this might be next birthday pressie…you never know.
The quality of single-cast miniatures is increasing pretty quickly. When Lloyd shows off the models at the end of the show, they look like very sharp casts.
Any chance we can get some coverage of Deadzone 2.0 or Mercs 2nd edition? BoW did some great stuff for those games a year or two back.