Pointless Views: Metal Miniatures Are Superior In Every Way?
November 1, 2019 by crew
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Best picture EVER!Pushed Napoleon and Wellington to a close 2nd
Yes they are. Next topic please
So @avernos has reached peak meme XD
Great show and you even managed to get to the correct outcome well done gents. I’d be keen to pop in for a chat if you’re after people. I do not like resin, I live in a country that regularly gets above 35-40 Degrees so yeah Resin is not a smart idea. As someone who does take public transport to and from events/games metal can be a tad heavy but books are far worse, they take up so much space, they always end up either around your neck, stuffed into the side of a bag that’s makes it unbalanced or… Read more »
If metal was superior in every way, then other materials wouldn’t be used. But interesting chat and some good points from the discord and the panel. As a hobby we are fortunate we have so much choice out there – I personally don’t get the plastic only, metal only crowds as there are just so many great minis in every material out there. Recycling of plastic is an interesting one. I’d be quite cynical on this and wouldn’t be surprised if most of the plastic that is collected by your local council isn’t just dumped or burned anyway or sent… Read more »
I haven’t listened to the full show yet but when talking about minis and suitable materials wargaming is more than just 28mm. Metal is still the best medium for the smaller scales
Metal model test and trial? Well we need to use these: https://www.beastsofwar.com/news/heavy-metal-heroes-strongholds-webstore/
It won’t get more metal than that!
This was interesting to watch. There are few things that weren’t mentioned that might have an impact on the few. In plastic kits you can place several options to choose from to assemble your models. Extra heads, weapons, legs, arms, …. I don’t know if you have a lot of metal kits that have these. But then again they probably would make different models to give you your options. Transporting metal minis, only Lloyd touched on it. Transporting metal minis isn’t that great. If you have an army of 100+ models in metal compared to plastic and you have to… Read more »
it depends on the company, some companies like Raging heroes do provide additional options for the kits.
No had chance to listen to show yet,recently brought the plastic Battlemechs purely for transport reasons, but still play with the metal ones at home.
I need to watch the video in full but currently, I disagree, to a point. I think one-piece metal miniatures are great. They are finely detailed, just need slotting onto a base and they’re good to go. Beyond that though, metal is just (imo) fiddly and a pain in the arse to stick together. If it was cheap enough to produce the same models in high-quality plastic as we’ve seen for Hellboy and plenty of CMON games I think you still get loads of detail and you can also tinker around with the models with ease. I love tinkering with… Read more »
Best metal minis of 2019
Footsore’s Saxon Huscarls. Though something Burrows and Badgers, Baron Wars or Sci-Fi would probably be more interesting as people would have a much wider palette to choose from.
Hmmmm….tough call. Pros: Great for infantry (resin is not so great except for mierce minis resin infantry, which is just fantastic). Nice weight. Holds good detail. Nice and cool to the touch….:) Cheaper than most resin. Cons: Horrible for large creatures (resin is perfect here) Hard to reshape bent bits. Can be an arse to glue. Parts often don’t match up as good as plastic or resin (hope you love greenstuff). I can see why plastic is a great way to go for models, but it isn’t really an option for smaller companies due to high upfront costs. And individual… Read more »
One thing I really like about plastic kitsets is the ability to easily add character to my models. Be that just a head turned to an interesting position, a slight turn at the hips, the raising of an arm holding a sword to indicate a downward slicing action… Or a kitbash, using the legs from the Assault Marine kit with the Tactical Marine kit so that my Black Templar Crusader Squad is running into battle, brandishing their chainswords. I classify kitbashing slightly differently to conversion as one doesn’t have to modify the parts to get a good effect. For someone… Read more »
I’d argue that it due to design.
When you’ve got square pegs then you can’t reposition arms.
However when they don’t have them then you can.
Warlord do separate metal heads for some of their metal/resin infantry …
Haha, well that was a pointless view because you didn’t convince me that metal IS superior in every way?
In reality I find myself material agnostic, I buy what I like and use it how I want to.
I don’t think Metal mini’s are superior. I just finished building the Hellpit abonimation model. Can a metal version of that same model be cast? I don’t think so. But let us assume it can (I am not an expert on cating). But what about the weight. Yes moving the heavy models does give a nice feeling. I bet moving / transporting a metal army from point a to point b will not be so kind to your back. You will need to have better cases to handle the weight of your army. Especially when you are horde player. Are… Read more »
Of course plastic and resin miniatures can be hard to put together, but it’s harder to get right in the design with metal than it is compared to resin or plastic. With converting miniatures, metal can be a pain, but with the right tools and patience, definitely possible. For that challenge we really need a good multi-part Infinity model. That would be the best of the best in my opinion and show people that metal miniatures can be good. For multi-pose miniatures I prefer plastic, for multi-part mono-pose miniatures I prefer resin (Not GW failcast) and for single-piece mono-pose miniatures… Read more »
I think the show went really well, from the statement of intent to the final conclusion.
One I realised after watching this was the increased postage costs that would be incurred due to the weight people love.
Well now that shipping is now “volumemetric” (rather than just based on weight), and plastic minis on a sprue take up more room……are you able to save on the shipping any more?
A metal infantry is about 10-20g. So an army of 1000 soldiers is only 10kg-20kg. More Weetabix is needed, it seems.
“Warren’s given them 2p sneakers” – is this the new cement shoes? Is Warren the miniatures mafia?
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Always happy to jump on a call for a future topic.
all wrong!!! lol 😉 sorry just being a git, of corse Warren is right…….
slowly shakes head….. 😀
For me it is a matter of playing style and utility. If I am playing a skirmish game like saga – I prefer metal because of the character and heft.
When it comes to mass battle games like Hail Caesar or Kings of War I simply prefer plastic because of price and weight.
That what it boils down to for me.
Clearly metal isn’t superior in every way, if that were true nobody would make miniatures out of anything else. Plastic is obviously superior if you want to produce miniatures by the thousand. But let’s ignore manufacturing and say that it’s only the end product itself that’s being compared. Even then you would have to define what is the end product, is it the assembled painted model or is it the product the consumer purchases. If it’s the finished model then without picking it up a complete beginner in hobby would be hard pressed to tell whether many miniatures were metal… Read more »
Best minis are the one that paint themselves in any format!!!!!!!!!
or Army painter should be just that , Buy a can of Roman Legionnary Early Imperial 28mm , point at figure and spray.
Trouble is then would end up with a lot of free time……
could actually read all the books I have.
I agree with most of comments , I currently find plastic easier to work with and don’t have any issue with weight.
But it is just a personal perferance, though will probably change my mind at next lot of shiny!
I’m not sure if metal is superior, but it is definitely not inferior. As long as the design is good and production is clean, I’m happy with all materials.
I suppose I’d vote for an Infinity model for the challenge as we’ve repeatedly lauded them as being the new gold standard? This one is a new release and as a Shasvastii is on theme with Defiance:
https://store.corvusbelli.com/wargames/infinity/miniatures/shasvastii-cadmus-hacker
Or the slight historical influence to the Pano military orders might have wider appeal in the community.
https://store.corvusbelli.com/wargames/infinity/miniatures/crusader-brethren-multi-rifle-light-ft
While I do enjoy the details and weight of metal, plastic is so much easier to convert.