Weekender XLBS: What Historical Battles Should We Play & Box A Or Box B?
January 29, 2017 by crew
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First?
Thankfully not first…but someone better say it…
HAPPY SUNDAY!
Amended – HAPPY SUNDAY! 😀
DUUUDEEEE Really 🙂
Oh I love your Mecha . IT Should be painted bright yellow, be piloted by Rogal Dorn and feature in TTS as the Big E’s cuddly fuzzy wuzzy little yellow cute cuddle toy for those bad days when he does not feel all that fresh and brought out for special occasions such as slaaneshmas day. The day when All Human and chaos put aside their differences ,as they are all humans anyway , get together for 1 great cause, to KILL ALLLLLL XENOSSSS. you know you want to.
Second
Third
Dave mate ; We Miss you ; when are you gonna be back on with new Pretty, pretty Forge World shinies to unbox ???
Not to forget deets about your custom cast army.
Come back soon we misses yah.
In the process of saving up for a warlord titan. As soon as I get one I’ll ask @warzan if I can come back over and unbox it
Nice one !!! Will look forward to it. I went crazy bought a War hound titan with an extra set of VMB’s to replace shoulder pads with and a Reaver Apocalypse launcher to mod to the carapace. Kinda make a baby warlord .( I never Wizzy Wig I am a modeller who games. the rule of cool is what I go for. All my army has poles mounted on the bases with little info flags stating what they are carrying.) along with this got 6 knights, and a huge mechanicum force, with a bunch of Solar Auxilia to use as… Read more »
Happy Sunday!
Morning…Hobby weekend booked
Happy Sunday even
Wouldn’t it be easier just to move over here Rob?
Yeah we’re thinking of putting a futon in the cage for him 😉
John could use another body in Warren’s hobby time slave pit ;-P
Well you know, I would but my boss won’t like it…lol
I was just watching “Atlantis Rising” and the narrator stated that it would have taken an explosion equal to 1 million atomic bombs to create what is now Santorini — so you can tell Justin you were not crazy. Also, that society has the worlds first flushing toilets so that must mean that must has been Atlantis 🙂
Happy sunday !
Happy Sunday! Not first but have booked my ticket for hobby weekend! @dignity be warned my wife is coming too and she has a soft spot for you(bless)
Someone get Warren some post it notes, or some equivalent, so pages can be marked ahead of filming.
Good morning Beasts of war! (in the voice of Robin Williams)
@Warzan Good on you mate do Napoleonics your way. Use Chosen Men to tide you over. Osprey does cracking rules. The first table top war game I ever saw was a Waterloo on the table top with scenery etc .. I was rapt 30 odd years later , it’s something I am starting to have a hankering to sit down and have a crack a fair dinkum 1800s game with Wellignton et al. Go for it and please share your journey, Seriously it is something I have always wanted to do properly, and would love to see how you go
I would take A and B .. I need empty boxes for my storage !
@warzan I’ve started Napoleonic Skirmish and managed to get my first mini painted; [img
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Ha ha ha ha. Great stuff, laughed my B***s off at the last segment.
Happy Sunday guys.
With regards to glass flowing….. http://smp.uq.edu.au/content/pitch-drop-experiment . This pitch drop experiment at my alma mater was the one of the first done on solids behaving as liquids .. the experiment is still on going. (nearly 90 years long)
With regards to historic battles here’s a few you could have a go at,
For Lloyd Julius Ceaser’s seige of Vercingetorix at Alesia
going forward in time The Battle of Schellenberg (just before the Battle of Blenheim) if you want something different
I’d second Alesia as a battle to warfare. I can’t think of much else like it.
I just checked and I have a box marked ‘C’ Is it a glitch in the simulation?
Great show as always guys.
SHUSH no one is allowed to talk about things marked C it annoys the prop guys and leads to the uncomfortable Question. WHERE THE EFF DID THE COKE BOTTLE COME FROM ???
Deep Breath indoor voice phrewww calm now 😛
Why should I care what real @redben gets? F*** that guy!
lol
@lloyd Waterloo trailer; https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MvoBYEaG3V4
I have DVD in hand now and taking it to him in about 1hr! 😀
There’s a multi-part low quality version on YouTube or for a few quid you can purchase Sony’s version, presumably better quality.
Dvd now safely delivered to him (along with Barry Lyndon) :p
on the DVD front, did he ever hand over the Dark Crystal and Labyrinth set for your kids, if so have you tried them yet or waiting for them to get a bit older….if not he said he was going to show them to Anna first, in which case check his draws, oh errr
Re Rourke’s Draft and Justin and Lloyd
This is why large multi player games are so much fun
Of course it needs a good umpire as well
alas they only had me, but we muddled by
You better start swatting up on La Haye Saint 😉
Heck maybe we even open it up to any backstagers who fancy coming over for a couple of games and some beers 🙂
don’t worry I’m one step ahead of you, you do realise that the 27th foot or the Inniskillings were at Waterloo, I’m just reading the battle lines at the moment to see if any local lads got near to La Haye Saint
Awesome!
Don’t be modest G
I set the hospital up back to front, that’s not exactly good XD
A friend of mine years ago went to Rourke’s Drift and was amazed how small it a dually was compared to how it was portrayed in the movie
annoyingly @torros I can’t reply to your comment below, so I’m replying to my own. I had a friend visit it a few years ago as well, even though they filmed it on the actual site of the drift the current buildings aren’t the originals from the action, those were knocked down in the 1900s and rebuilt so I’m not sure how the distance of the current buildings align to the originals.The camera angles never really give you the idea of the actual size because it was a lot of tight shots looking out you didn’t get the impression of… Read more »
The Terracotta Army from China had a cross bow that looked similar to the Sigmarines bow, which was ahead of its time by about 200 hundred years but it wasn’t a repeater.
Got a mention on back stage. Wow 🙂
Didn’t proof read my post and saw a typo 🙁
@warzan Keep up the diet and exercise, you can see the difference It is making. And don’t worry if you are known as the local twitchy wierdo. Lol
So -on the subject of 8×6 action. I’m going to push outside comfort zone, familiar land based battles and suggest Trafalger! Even on 8×6 you’re going to need small scale ships to pull off the long French line astern formation and allow for movement.
Can you duplicate Nelson’s brilliant tactics, prepared to sacrifice some of your force to split the French?
Trafalgar sorry – me bad!
If you then wanted to pick a segment to play out larger scale it would have to be the Temeraire protecting Victory!
brilliant suggestion 🙂
1/2400 scale you could do that
Good to see some historical games being played. For Chosen Men I have just put together two 500 point forces using Perry miniatures. I used the marching figures for the line infantry from the plastic sets. For rifleman and light infantry I added a few metal packs. It doesn’t take much to collect a force for Chosen Men. For a larger game in history the battle of Abu Klea in the Sudan would be interesting with a British square moving across the table while being assaulted by mahdist tribesman. The film the Four Feathers used this battle as a basis… Read more »
Just on those stormbolter ‘crossbows’, they are meant to make them look more like Space Marines. A blind man in a computer simulation can see that. Why is that a problem? GW want to replicate the success of Space Marines in their fantasy setting, and they’re not being subtle about it. Why is it okay if it can be tenuously justified by reaching to compare them with historical crossbows, but the truth is not okay?
In a word yes they can of course do what they like, but there is a little counter niggle I have about the suspension of disbelief, and some times little things can ‘pull you out of a game’ at the first glance to me this was a little like that and further diluted the narrative draw of AoS a little. Of course it’s only a small thing and will be of no consequence in a short amount of time, but if it happens often enough it makes it very difficult to truly gel with the story – as it will… Read more »
@warzan
I do get that :). I’m more talking about the mental gymnastics some put themselves through to try and convince themselves it’s something other than what it is. They’re Space Marines with bolters, that’s the point. Wishing very hard for it to be something else won’t make it something else 🙂
Yeah, I think as a rule of thumb all games developers should try to avoid releases and situations that cause those ‘mental gymnastics’ as in the longer run I think it potentially detracts from games ‘ease of falling in love with’
But…
Heck every game has them from time to time and it’s an impossible ask for developers as different folk react in different ways – but I wonder if some (maybe including this) could be considered a little too obvious?
You know it’s you that converted me to the planting blame at the developers feet lol 😉
In this instance I don’t blame the developers because they’re getting the effect they’re going for (or the sales dept. want them to go for lol). They want them to be Space Marines and they’re being blatant about it. No amount of pretending otherwise is going to change the fact that these ones are Space Marines with bolters. If you need to subject yourself to mental gymnastics to pretend they’re holding historical crossbows then the issue is with the viewer 🙂
They are all ‘the developers’ (I’m using the term instead of company to ensure that it applies to all sizes of team.
And I think there is more to it than just planting it at the players feet, the developers (again regardless of who or how many) are the guardians of the IP that ultimately (and most importantly) fans buy into.
It’s not easy sure, but it originates with them 🙂
It may be a bad decision, though I’m less interested in that here as I am in the reception of them. It would be better if people just said they didn’t want Space Marines with bolters in a fantasy game, than kidding themselves they’re holding historical crossbows.
What is the problem I use Siggys’ as 1st company Space marines , knights, as well as Crusaders, emperor’s champions, special characters and armours. Proxies for centurions/ terminators. Stick an imperial guard carriage mounted heavy weapon sans carriage in their hands and they make awesome devastators and and hvy assault terminators., and great to use as the over sized 3 odd mtr Black Dragons and Carcaradons legionnaires. Also Their heads make awesome Auspix sensors, and weapon targeters. Different paint job and modding I also use them as Admech battle automata and battle/ gun servitors.Also for Admech using heads as listed… Read more »
@sayntofsynners
That’s no problem at all. It’s exactly why GW did this. I’m talking about people who have to pretend they’re not Space Marines with bolters and are actually holding historical weapons to justify liking them.
I think I get you now!
Yes ultimately fan pushback is what will put the issue on the agenda.
Again in this specific case it’s probably not a big deal for both or so far down the road of similar features it’s too late to matter
I just have a quiet hunch that if AoS doesn’t start to develop a captivating (as in it grabs and holds you without to many moments of mental gymnastics) story that sets it apart in its own right I just don’t think it’s going to have longevity (maybe tidy that is not such an issue though)
What gets me is that it smacks of laziness. First they looked like and had a description that made them like Space Marines, and now they have actual “bolter” named weapons. Perhaps it’s like Dark Eldar and the old Dark Elves, each being the model range’s equivalent in their setting; but surely after years of progression, with a new fantasy narrative and the talent they have in designing miniatures, surely they could’ve come up with something more unique and less obvious than this? It’s too blatant! Okay, so we presume to know exactly what the sales team do and what… Read more »
Also snip the vertical crossbow arms off and you have unique 30k bolters/ or a new pattern
No offense lads, but as a Space Marine player… those are some ugly Space Marines. 😛
@ redsarge.
Lol they say war is ugly , which means I guess future war is Fugly. They kinda remind me of the sexy robot from Fritz Lang’s 1929 Metropolis. But what do I know I only like MK6 Corvus helmets with the beaky face plates.
Awhiles ago you could play bolter armed actual Chaos Space Marines in WHFB fans seemed to like that .
For your historic big battles could you go for the battle of Bastogne during the Battle of the Bulge with the allies having to hold out until reinforcements arrive.
If you look online at http://www.rorkesdriftvc.com there is a transcript of a radio interview Colour Sgt Bourne did in 1936 which is interesting .Surprisingly he was only 24 at the time if the battle. Some interesting thoughts of after the battle After news of the disastrous defeat at Isandlwana, the successful defence of Rorke’s Drift was celebrated by the British press and public As the officers in command, Chard and Bromhead were singled out for particular praise. However, some of their fellow officers resented the plaudits bestowed on the pair, believing that they merely performed their duty by defending the… Read more »
Flipping fab post!
I heard that a long time ago, someone on the youtubes had uploaded a vid of them reading it out. I particularly like the idea that he was nicknamed the Kid by the battalion and when he found out he thought it was a good idea as it stopped people becoming too full of their own self importance.