If it comes to be commonly accepted that the Devastation banner DOES affect vehicles, then it’s worth noting that Relentless DOES allow salvo weapons to be fired as though the model were stationary, even after having moved, and that all vehicles are counted as having relentless. Land Raider Crusaders would benefit from it magnificently, and even the Darktalon flier might be able to claim the buff.

what’s up with the video quality? it looks out of focus

Great Video!!!I couldn’t here where you mentioned about the third party land raider upgrade kits? Who makes them?

Hey guys, nice vid. 100% right about the vengeance, it’s too many points and too short ranged. Really annoying I was excited by the model in the white dwarf. just to confirm: as said in the comments for your HQ video, the banner does work from within the vehicle (& of course does affect hurricane bolters). Only thing you guys missed you only really half missed. The Land Raiders (all) FAQ point says “change the last option for each Land Raider to: “May be upgraded to a Deathwing Vehicle….” That changes the option that used to say if it was… Read more »

devies two and two works combat squad them e.g. 2 heavy bolters in one squad 2 lascannons in another not my favourite way of using them but certainly viable.

I will throw my support behind the vindicator sheer fear factor alone is worth it but it regularly blows holes in things for me.

Who cares whether the standard of devastation can affect hurricane bolters? What happens when they get to the other side? Do they stand still and get charged or do they charge out? If they cheesily try to run multiple LRC’s + objective holders I’ll laugh before I deep strike and kill all of their min sized scoring units! The power behind the standard is that you form a gunline which keeps as many marines with boltguns under the banner and you hose anything before it can charge you. I can’t see that changing the fact that gunlines generally lose if… Read more »

third party parts are from scibor they’ve got 3 versions so far available through wayland

Well trying to ignore my disappointment and trying to look for positives. The main thing I can think of is that a few weeks down the line I will be the only guy who plays Dark Angels at our club. Which kind of suits me. I think I would have been equally disappointed if they had been the army to break 6th and everyone played them. In 40K I only play the two armies DA and Eldar. Within each of the two codices you can build quite a number of diverse lists. My DA armies usually have Librarian in so… Read more »

BRB FAQ page 6:
Q: Do embarked passengers with ‘area of effect’ wargear, such as the Big Mek’s Kustom Force Field, measure the range of such items from the hull of the transport they are embarked upon? (p78)
A: Yes.