To bad Arjac has to challenge himself to death 🙁

Squad leaders are characters too. The example on page 63 gives a SM vet sarge as an example.

Is Bjorn a character? I think Dreadknights can challenge as well. Would something like that be effective against Abbadon?

what about orikan powered up with 2 chronometrons attached,plus a Dlord for P enemy. no armor saves, rerolls to hit,s,t7 A4 not bad, 2 rerolls, but thats situational since he might not be powered up.
obyron does have the 2+ so he doesnt care about ap3 pweapons…
or the Dlord T6 no ID, with PE, not bad ap1. whats abaddons invuln?

As well as unit leaders! (I know it is said before) Haven´t you noticed that?

The avatar could go close! And karandras I 7 A 7 on the charge don’t dismiss the spandex and the hive tyrant with lash wip would destroy him . Swarm lord ?

From the 6th ed rule book, page 64 bottom paragrath of “Fighting a challenge” :

“For the duration of the challenge, these two models are considered to be in base contact only with each other.”

Mindshackle Scarabs + Warscythe = Stop hitting yourself Abbadon + Splat 🙂

Hallucogenic grenades might be of use too!

Daemon weapons are power weapons, Drach’nyen strikes at S8 AP3 and re-rolls failed to wound rolls, so abaddon bounces his hits off terminator armour, so who beats abaddon? Calgar, will do it. Who’ll beat Calgar?

I’m not 100% sure on this one so forgive me if I’m obviously wrong but I don’t think that Mephiston or the Sanguinor or Death Company Tycho can challenge anyone as they are all one man units and don’t have the independent character special rule.

As it stands challenges will not be an issue for my Eldar HQ as I generally take a Farseer and an Avatar. The Farseer is mounted in a Falcon and never intentionally gets out anyway let alone into combat and the Avatar isn’t part of a unit either so it will make no difference as far as he is concerned. The Exarchs would struggle but I can’t see my opponents big CC hero wasting a round of combat just to take out the Exarch not when he could decimate the unit instead. I think the losers will be the big… Read more »

Swarmlord would be pretty nasty, or a Bloodthirster.

the broodlord 83 points: ws7 bs 0 s 6 t 5 w 3 i 7 a 4 ld 10 sv 4+
rerolls 1s to hit, rerolls to wounds if strengh is equal or greater than ememys toughness, rending, implant attack (to wound roll of 6 causes instant death),and the icing on the cake, hypnotic gaze (both players roll a d 6 and add their leadership if the broodlord rolls equal or higher than the targets score, that model may not attack in the ensuing combat)

I would say that Typhus is quite good when compared to Abaddon. FAQ makes Manreaper both a Daemon weapon and a Force Axe. It also counts as a poison weapon. Destroyer Hive causes enemy units to not gain their bonus Attacks for charging Typhus or unit he has joined. He is pretty survivable for not having a invul save.

The Good
Manreaper: Force Axe, Daemon, Poison
Mark of Nurgle + Termi armour + Feel no Pain
Destroyer Hive

The Bad:
Strikes at the same time as Power Fists
No Invul
No Eternal warrior

To know who a character is check the back of the book for the reference of everything, this is where the reference for hull points

In that reference it will say who is classed as a character if your unsure

It’s interesting that one of the coolest combat characters is a member of the Imperial Guard! Colonel “Ironhand” Straken has WS5, S:6 (S:7 on a charge), hits at I:3 (I:4 on a charge), with 3 attacks (5 on a charge) that ignore armour saves (or use 2D6 to penetrate vehicles). I’ve checked the FAQ and he hasn’t been changed from the Codex (other than to clear up some text), so he doesn’t have a power weapon, he’s just rock! He also has Counter Attack and Furious Charge (which he also gives to his puny guard mates)… all round he’s an… Read more »

A nemesis dreadknight with a greatsword will take abaddon now (until the new book of course) lol

But people have the forgotten the big bad swarmlord and making his opponent re-roll failed saves ouch!

Woah guys what about Lysander? Lysander is the man. Eternal Warrior, 4 wounds and a massive hammer. His rules arnt shabby either.

Crowe seems to be better now, I’ll even put money on Crowe to beat Abaddon. Maybe Gabriel Seth will do better Str 8 I-5 but no power weapon. But Capt Tycho maybe the dark horse here. Capt stats and you get no armor save, the death company one sounds good to. But I hate the guy’s fluff. After reading it I don’t know how the hell he can be called a marine. I may use his stat page but would have to use a different captain model and give him a new name.

I think Chaos Daemons a no-name herald of Slaanesh on a chariot with it’s strength buffed could be quite scary if you still get your Hammer of Wrath in the challenge. Weighs in at a stonking 75 points and on the charge you’d normally be looking at 7 x S5 I7 Rending attacks with measly toughness 4 but 5 wounds and eternal warrior. With the new chariot rules though there’s D6 S6 I10 attacks added on. That’s up to 13 attacks and I realise there’s maybe some contention on this but Hammer of Wrath, the hits are done at AP… Read more »

Just remembered chaplain Cassius toughness 6 may work and even Kor’sarro Khan.