Finally… You do know I’ve been waiting for this all day, do you?!

I’d go with everything but heavy. I don’t think BS1 though, more like -2 BS

I’d also recon that only the guys who get to do this are the guys you charge, so no Darrell, no 50+ guardsmen, just the ones who’d be able to hit you in combat.

Counter-attack would probably give you the choice.

What I don’t like in this rumour is the fact that it decreases the chance of us being able hitt someone with pistol in CC, like in Heresy 40k.

Link this rule to the first one you revealed the other day and the charging player will have to be careful who he puts at the front of his assaulting unit, else he may lose his best cc guy before the combat.
I’m liking the sound of these new rules

I think Heavy weapons that did not move in their last movement phase should get to shoot too. Thats what happens in real war. Set up a big gun and shoot anything that isn’t on your side no matter what direction it is moving.

Actually, it’s exactly as tasty against 50 Guardsmen, since a standard Guardsmen don’t have a pistol or assault weapon. To my mind, it would make a whole lot more sense to institute an Overwatch rule- you don’t get to shoot on the turn you go onto Overwatch, but you do get to fire with full effect against units who assault you. Maybe even apply it against enemies who come within 12″ of you: your men don’t have a clear line of sight to the Marines behind that building, but you can order them to be ready to shoot them in… Read more »

Everyone in unit that is target of charge including heavy weapon guys that didn’t move able to shoot would defenetly help shooty armies and decrease my worries about close combat armies getting too much edge. Now there would also be risk in charging shooty units with close combat units instead of just reward.

I dont think there is ANY chance of this idea making it into a 1980s set of wargames rules like wallethammer 40K.

As a Tau player I say YES.

Though would twin-linked weapons being able to re-roll count though? thats my question.

I like the idea of the rule and think it fits well with the previous mentioned rule. I also think you guys are right that this rule should be a accompanied with an over watch rule which I see working in the same way but you would use your normal ballistic skill instead of BS1. I feel the shooting unuts will line up in a two rank alignment with a zig zag coherency with the flamers and other special weapons in the back row but the formation allows you to shoot your template weapons out, this will then also protect… Read more »

Bringing in some form of defensive fire makes sense. But need to make sure that shooting doesn’t become too powerful. Ok dropping BS to ‘1’ helps as you don’t have time to sight the target etc, hence why the normally high BS guys would become the same as an orc.

What I’d say if this happens then grenades need to be more useful, currently they just avoid a penalty, make them able to do some damage or even supress that defensive fire. That is I roll ‘x’ to pin you down with my assault grenades and then you can’t fire back.

If this opens to assault weapons Termagaunts with Devourers is going to be so fething evil! In a 10 man squad that is 30 attacks, that is 5 hits and 2-3 wounds per 10 Devgaunt.

If flamers get this then I might run a flamer every now and then.

If rapid fire weapons get this than Plasmaguns might see a resurgence but meltaguns will still be king.

Would pinning weapons force to roll for a pinning test? Image somebody tries to assault a group of fire-warriors and end up being pinned in his own turn.

That would be interesting with Orks =D

30 Shoota boys? You want to charge me and get 60 shots in the face? BS 1?! I normally shoot at 2 so not a big change. That puts you off charging me? Prepare to be charged!!! =D

£70.00 for bit of inside info
Ah well you were in the land of Robin Hood

woul surpressing wapeons let the enemy take cover an inch befor hes got you?

I really love this rule. I play a shooty space marine army and this rule will make this a lot better choise then it is now (now you still beter just run then shoot). About the weapon type. I would think that it is for all weapons but then I remembered something. GW said that all the codex after the tyranid codex were made to also fit the 6th edition rules. This said there were 2 weapon which I think were a bit useless before but with this rule only aplying to pistols would make a bit more viable option:… Read more »

Maybe something along the lines of an Initiative test with your natural BS? If you pass you can fire a weapon of your choice bar a Heavy weapon. (E.g. Bolters, Pulse Rifles, Laspistols etc But not Lascannons and Missile Launchers) But, Heavy weapons can be used if the squad/model didn’t move the turn before and passes the initiative test (You can’t expect someone to run with a Heavy Bolter, plonk it down, put in the rounds and aim before the enemy is there) This gives the Tau a massive advantage in terms of firepower, but they are currently only Initiative… Read more »

So your ‘nid army which already struggles to be competitive and gets shot to pieces before it can assault already, is now going to have another round of shooting aimed at it? Well that’ll really help all the bug players – not.

Yet another nail in the coffin for Hive Fleet Evil Lady Bug, but my other armies to include necron, eldar, ultramarines, and possible grey knights and blood angels could benefit from this rule. My only issue with this rule rumor so far is that it seems too incomplete to make a full analysis of the rule yet, like many of my peers have said so far what I really think this needs to be is more of an overwatch rule now that would be truly awesome.

Great… as if shooty armies already don’t have every advantage in the game. The IGO-UGO system is what it is; giving gunlines an extra round of shooting is just going to make it so much worse.