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Heavy Armour & Anti-Air Hits For Flames Of War Team Yankee
August 31, 2015 by brennon
Breakthrough Assault have added the final series of previews for Team Yankee onto their blog for the new Flames Of War 'expansion'. See what you think of the Tanks and Anti-Air vehicles rolling onto the battlefield...
Heavy Armour
Rolling into battle are some iconic looking tanks in the M1 Abrams and variants of the T-72. All of these tanks could well be given the title of 'work horse'.
The T-72 and variants were built in huge quantities with 250,000 of them ready to fight. As the process went on they had reactive armour added for extra protection.
Anti-Air
Planes and airstrikes were a much deadlier prospect I would imagine after World War II and the advent of dangerous jet planes. With that in mind it seems prudent to have better Anti-Air vehicles.
Each of these vehicles are armed with different weapons for tackling incoming aircraft. The first vehicle, the M163 VADS, has a deadly rotary cannon that fires 3,000 rounds per minute.
The Shilka, next on the list, has four deadly autocannons that could fire between 850 and 1000 rounds per minute. The other Soviet option is the Gopher.
The Gopher was armed with a plethora of ground to air missiles focusing on one big explosive strike compared to relentless fire. Basically, the aircraft of the Cold War era should beware.
What do you think?
"Rolling into battle are some iconic looking tanks in the M1 Abrams and variants of the T-72..."
The 2 MBT look like plastic kits. If they are that makes me a very happy bunny 🙂
Tanks and VADS are plastic. Shilka & Gopher look like plastic tracks but the body work looks like resin.
Hmmm T-72, we had some variants of it built here in Poland when we used to be on the evil side during the Cold War. Still, based on the T-72M1 chassis the PT-91 was developed. I believe we are going to withdraw the T-72 from use in 2018, but I am not sure.
The models look great thou.
The Polish built vehicle was a better piece of kit, overall, but I think it had less turret armour than the Russian machine. Could be wrong.
It did had weaker armour.
I’m getting a little bit excited about this now, I was on the fence before but these are swell.
For 15mm minis these look great, can’t wait to start playing 3rd Generation wargames rules
It’s still used in many places in the world and would be very suitable for what if Eastern European border in Rumania, Hungry etc
Omg..yes..they do look like plastics…my poor wallet is doomed..hooray!!
I’m wondering if we’ll see any Wild Weasel rules for dealing with some of the AA.
…Shrikes rule!
A Phantom in 15mm would still take up half a table!
That’s why planes in the game are to “sky-scale”, not 15mm. FoW planes were 1/144 rather than 1/100 i believe, I see no reason why they wouldn’t compress the scale further here.
Ah, the Phantom. Proof that if you put enough thrust behind a brick . . . that brick will fly. 🙂
That might be the case @oriskany, but have you ever been hit by a flying brick? 🙂
the same principal that GW uses for spacemarine flyers?
Oh, I ain’t hatin’ on the Phantom, @neves1789 . . . especially when one considers the differences between the role it was originally designed for, and the role(s) it would up performing.
Oh, wait, that’s supposed to be @generalmayham . Sorry bout that
I can’t tell . . . it looks like that Abrams is a true M1 . . . with the original 105mm L7 on it (i.e., not the M1A1 with the Rhinemetal “Saddam-izer”). Does anyone know if this game is trying to stick to the actual Harold Coyle novel, hence the 105mm-armed M1s and the T-72s that don’t **really** belong there?
Saddam-izer lol. Never heard that one @oriskany . As for the T-72’s, they definitely belong, but since I can’t enter the debate with anything beyond “Unclassified,” you’ll have to take my word for it 😉 . I already nixed my own post in the history forum because I thought it crossed the line. Beautiful little bits of kit. Damn you 15mm. I console myself with the fact that most 15mm infantry really sucks lol. And of course I ordered the Ki-Tech 28mm Abrams, not noticing immediately that it only had six road wheels instead of seven… rivet counter I’m not!… Read more »
@cpauls1 – I think I saw “Saddam-izer” actually painted on the barrel of an M256 / Rh120 in Iraq. So I’d love to take credit . . . but it’s not original. I know what you mean about 15mm infantry. I usually don’t even bother with them in the conventional “hobby” sense, I’ll just grab a bunch of inexpensive 15mm A&A minis pre-painted from whoever’s selling them. Speaking of classified and unclassified . . . I have a hare-brained project modern / near future I’m thinking of . . . you might be hearing from me. (cue ominous music)
For some reason my name comes up a lot when hare-brained projects are considered or discussed. Muahaha!… happy to help :-).
It was my understanding that the game was supposed to be mid-80s.
The T72 entered service in the early 70s and the M1 in the early 80s.
Not sure what about any of that would be considered classified. I saw both in Fulda in the mid-80s and no one ever said “look but dont tell anyone” 🙂
That reminds me, I should clarify my post about “seeing a “Saddam-izer in Iraq,” I should have said I saw TV FOOTAGE from Iraq. I was out of the military long before the 2003 invasion, I don’t want to give the wrong impression. Anyway, it was my impression, @aloharover , that the T-72 indeed came out in the 70s, but was strictly for export to client states and possibly Category II and III Soviet divisions. The “real” divisions that would have invaded West Germany (or resisted a NATO invasion of East Germany) would have gone straight from the T-64 (actually… Read more »
iirc, my football (soccer) coach talked once about a maneuver where russian T-72s were involved… he was at the east german NVA’s T-72s.
But maybe I mix there something up.
My german Wikipedia speaks about 9200 T-72 still in russian service. 1200 of them still operational.
@oriskany The Soviets actually used more or less 1/4 of the T-72 produced worldwide. At the beginning it was supposed to be a temporary construction used during the development of a newer construction. This was due to the fact that it was based on the flawed in many aspects T64 chassis (they developed the T72 while simultaneously bringing the T64 into service).
It would appear to be a basic M1 (rather than the IPM1) as it doesn’t have the rear turret storage. So it’ll be 105mm equipped. As you say, the T-72 would be fine for the NVA, but it would appear the Soviets were equipped with the T-64 and T-80 in both the German and central groups of forces. I would hope that they’ll differentiate between a vanilla T-72 and say a T-72B as they are very different tanks capability wise. The 105mm on the M1 would have struggled frontly with some of the later Soviet armour. For those dreading painting… Read more »
Very nice.
OOoo nice tanks.
If they do Marine units, AAVs/LVPT7s M60A3s early LAV25?(we had them when the wall came down not sure when they entered service) I will be hooked for sure. Either way I know that I will be getting some of these minis.
Cant wait to see the Bradly M2, that will sell it for me.
Apache and Warthog doing close support and C130 Spectre doing larger target prepping. Armoured Cav racing to get to strong points and being followed up with Armoured Divisions to keep the ground gained. Throw Airborne Brigades to cut off Soviet Divisions that raced far forward. Throw in Ranger battalions taking airfields, Air Force to fly in infantry from Army and Marines. They also fight to control the sky. Ah good times. Ran through this drill a few times. Nothing like see an entire Brigade parachuting into a drop zone.:)
Awwwww, HELL yeah, @stvitusdancern !!! Can you imagine a 1/100 15mm AC-130 Specter gunship? I’m gonna be thinking about that all day now. That thing would be like a foot across! And what would the damage template be? “Hold on . . . Lemme go to the garage and get my leaf-blower. BBRRRRZZZZZZZSSSSHHH !!”
That would totally rock!
And at that point you’re playing a game that uses chits, not models to handle all that junk.
Amen, brother @poks . Amen.
*Tosses a hoola hoop on the table.* “Everything inside this is red mist and bone chips.”
Do any of you historians know the name of the camouflage pattern used on the American vehicles here? It looks great, would like to duplicate it in Battletech as well as Team Yankee when it comes out.
It is a MERDC camo pattern @rfernandz2001 (Mobility Equipment Research & Design Command)
It actually has an official name? Why am I not surprised? We always just thought it was “Momma Green for her Killin’ Machines.” 😀
Thank you @yavasa lol. I’ve forgotten 90% of what I used to know, and had to know (gimme a break, it’s been seven years), but when @rfernandz2001 mentioned that cam pattern I drew a total blank… in a spit-rolling-from-the-side-of-my-mouth kind of way. Never knew what it was called, and never occurred to me to ask!
I actually like that pattern for a near future human force, but with gray instead of the green, to blend into more inhospitable worlds, and the brown shaded more toward rust aka a Mars type pattern.
Ah @oriskany it is a simple mistake 😉 you have mistaken MERDC with NATO pattern called CARC for Chemical Agent Resistant Coating in the US Army. 😉 (jut kidding of course.
@cpauls1 Not a problem 🙂
Thanks!
Spectre’s are easy targets for MANPADS and any of the modern SAM/AAA – I think the US lost 1 in the Gulf War – yep, just checked it on Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_AC-130
That may be true, but hearing that sound of one race tracking over head in the darkness of night and then seeing the fury of hell rain down is just awesome inspiring!
For all the Tank nuts this is a good read..
http://www.milrecon.com/2015/09/01/hardware-guide-for-chinas-upcoming-victory-parade/