Weekender: New Star Wars X-Wing Set Spotted & FoW Team Yankee Previews
August 29, 2015 by dignity
Welcome to The Weekender where we're catching up on some of the awesome stuff we've seen over the week! There's plenty to talk about when it comes to terrain and did someone say a new X-Wing Force Awakens set was on the horizon?
Flames Of War: Team Yankee
Team Yankee is making the team in the studio very excited and John takes us through some of the new vehicle previews we've been seeing for this new theatre of war for Flames Of War.
If you're looking for awesome Artillery and Aircraft then this might be the game for you.
High Sci-Fi Terrain
It's also time to get stuck into some awesome terrain. Lots of the focus is on the Hardfoam Terrain coming out of Micro Art Studios and the HDF Terrain by ZEN.
Both manufacturer's terrain would suit your high Sci-Fi tabletops and Lloyd in particular is a fan of the Hardfoam route.
4Ground have also sneaked up this weekend and dropped some new 10mm Terrain for Dropzone Commander which helps dream up all sorts of scenarios.
Force Awakens X-Wing
If you were excited about Star Wars: The Force Awakens and you also liked the dogfighting of X-Wing by Fantasy Flight Games then you'll want to listen in as we talk about the new Starter Set dropping (hopefully) later this year.
Fancy a new age X-Wing and some revamped TIE Fighters?
Lobotomy Board Game
Titan-Forge have also been running a campaign for their insanity inducing board game known as Lobotomy. We take a look at the game and discuss some of the mechanics that could make this quite the original experience.
Prize Winners!
Last but not least make sure to tune in to see if you were a winner of not one prize draw but two.
- Winner: theniffrig Prize: £50 KoW Army and Gamer Edition Rule Book
- Winner: Andrew Page Prize: KoW Gamer Edition Rule Book
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- Winner: Éva Jakab --Prize: KoW Gamer Edition Rule Book
- Winner: ozzyuk Prize: Dungeon saga & Adventurer's Companion
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As someone who works in the field of mental health, the Lobotomy game sounds very shite. Sense of humour failure on my part.
Yeah this was pretty much my response too. I’ll hold my judgement until we know a bit more about it though.
Totally agree. Society still has a long way to go in its attitudes to mental health. Crap like this doesn’t help.
I agree that the theme of the game is rather tasteless and did anyone else notice that those character cards look a lot like Arkham/Eldritch Horror?
For myself, I don’t blame the guys for doing what they do. To them it’s obviously just a game, not one that I would buy into but just a game however I do understand the distaste, especially for people with personal experience of mental health issues.
I get that it’s just a game, but the way it was reported on was appalling. Phrases like “you’re a nutter in an asylum” are just awful and insensitive. I’m genuinely annoyed by this. It’s shameful.
It’s a game, a characature, fiction. The chaps are not ‘reporting on’ anything real life here.
A little bit of perspective here would be a good thing. If you want to take offence, there is plenty of topics covered you can do that on here.
Or…
You can cut the guys some slack and understand they are talking about a game … Not real life.
If you would like to have a conversation with them about real life I’m very happy to arrange that for you.
@warzan had you chosen to pm me about this, I would have replied in kind. However, since you chose to do this publicly, here goes; I’m sure it was done in all innocence @warzan , but that does not make it any less offensive. There are huge numbers of people around the world, myself included, for whom mental health issues have an impact on their lives everyday, even to the point of actual or attempted suicide. We don’t have a choice about this (although we can apparently choose whether or not to be offended by being referred to as “nutters”.)… Read more »
As you wish @erastus I don’t believe for a second that any of the chaps referred directly or indirectly to you or anyone else. So yes you have the choice on taking offence because I’m certain it was never intended. It’s a difficult thing not offending folk, sometimes because you can wander unwittingly into topics that cause offence and sometimes because someone chooses to take offence. I do know that there never has (or will be) an episode aired where the intention is to upset or offend anyone, but I also know that if every topic has to be vetted… Read more »
I’ve been a psychiatric nurse for the last 25 years and I actually found the game and the way in which the guys talked about it offensive. The media has a massive part to play in the way that people with mental health problems are perceived. This game and your presentation was unfortunately not positive.
@raglan I’m not going to dispute that 🙂
As said above its a perilous thing wandering through topics, and I have no doubt the guys will be feeling rather low on this one (they are a sensitive bunch really)
I have been in psychiatric treatment on and off since I was 18 (now 62) I recently stopped Prozac after 15 years and still refer to them as my happy pills! I did not find anything the boys said offensive or hurtful to me. For Christ’s sake as you said it’s only a game, for which I am now a backer for on Kickstarter!
Keep up the good work and tell the boys this is one nutter who supports them.
I feel that saying that the segment needs a little perspective is very true, but also very disingenuous. It feels almost like a Get Out of Jail Free card to any subject, as long as it’s a game. Personally, my own issue is one of disappointment that this level of lack of understanding/empathy still pervades, and in such a “public” forum as a main page video. It says to me that there is still a long way to go to increase the understanding of mental health problems, and to reduce the social stigma. I also do not feel that the… Read more »
@erastus
Understand. I just think it was done in all innocence. Anyway, I respect your point of view and your concern and I think it’s a good thing that this is discussed.
I didn’t look at the cards, but the mini’s are very nice. I love their theme.
It’s unfortunate some people have felt the segment of the show about the Broad Game Lobotomy caused offence. I was in the show and I can assure you that we would not aim to offend people. Human’s are varied and complicated and one can not always know what may be felt to be offensive. We talk about lot’s of different gaming scenarios on Beasts of War and allot of them are based on real world events such as WW2, Vietnam etc. and as such do try to be sensitive to peoples feelings. In this case we have been chatting about… Read more »
Actually Lloyd, I think it’s unfortunate that you featured the game at all. The game and it’s presentation was ultimately in poor taste. Most of the time you guys are awesome, but this was a wrong call and an apology may be helpful.
I think that was him making an apology in a long winded sort of way 😉
(That’s an @lloyd trait 😉
Warren, I don’t believe for one minute the guys purposely set out to cause offense, you all seem like a very nice bunch who try hard to tow the PC line. However, I have witness mental health organisations over the years fight extremely hard to breakdown the negative stereotyping relating to mental illness. As a result, I personally didn’t like what I heard today and felt the need to raise my views on the forum.
@warzan @lloyd at no point has anyone accused you of deliberately setting out to offend people. Let me make a less emotive analogy. If I was walking down the street, not looking where I was going and accidentally bumped into you, you might expect me to say sorry. I didn’t set out intending to bump into you, but saying sorry would be the polite thing to do. You might reasonably think me rude if I didn’t. I haven’t seen a single word here that sounds like sorry. I’ve seen plenty of excuses. I’ve seen you imply rather heavily that it’s… Read more »
You didn’t offend me I enjoyed it. See my comment to Warren’s post
I would be a bit miffed if Battlefront didn’t do the rest of NATO and the Warsaw Pact. The variety of vehicles and aircraft surely means it is just good business from an expansion point of view. They of course would need a terrain option for the British, a row of garages where all the vehicles that are broken down can fight from (let’s face it that’s pretty much all of them!). They could also model in damaged doors and bent bollards just to give it that true BAOR feel! Oh how I do miss dragging out 432’s with no… Read more »
Lobotomy the used to a very credible way of treating many cases of mental health. What if all we do now is seen by our future generations as barbaric, like the mass prescription of medication. I only mention this because we should not judge, but rather analyse. Dr McCoy made mention of medieval treatments of the 21st Century. I would like to see the game based on its playability; Pandemic as example is a great board and app game. I’m sure that the gallant ladies and gentlemen who were and are still involved in Ebola similarly dislike it. But it’s… Read more »
Medical treatments, and the understanding of the human mind & body, are constantly evolving so it’s very likely that in 100 years times people will be appalled at our current treatments. Dr McCoy’s line is a good reminder about that. 🙂 Your point about Ebola is a valid one, but I think the difference lies in how the subject matter is treated. War games, for instance, are only really playable because we are able to discard how it would affect people in the real world. The first Austin Powers film highlighted the disconnect when it showed the ‘real world’ consequences… Read more »
You made me smile at the ‘No by thinks about the henchmen’ What an awesome film, I’m going to watch it right now man, thanks for the laugh
Morning All,
I’d highly recommend ‘Red Army’ by Ralph Peters. It outshines ‘Chieftains’ by a country mile in terms of realism, grit and expertise. I read ‘Chieftains’ last week and I have to say I wasn’t that impressed.
It will be interesting to see what the infantry are equipped with as there were a number of man portable anti armour weapons for taking out vehicles and how the aircraft interact with the game. Those hard foam buildings in black have a real feel of the aliens film. They may work really well with the AVP game or as bunkers for the Terminator game. Lobotomy looks like an interesting game in the vein of the Sucker Punch film. I wonder if you could adapt it to play the film scenarios out. Dig out your dragon model, alternate WW1 models… Read more »
use the malifaux samurai. they already have shoulder mounted miniguns
It’s the weekend!
Infinity day at my FLGS vs my son’s birthday… Tough call!
Shamefully, it does cause pause for thought. I love infinity
he’ll have other birthdays and once the presents are given out kids usually ignore you till they get hungry
check out my forum post for Xwing. Ive been putting all the info i cant find about the new set there http://www.beastsofwar.com/groups/sci-fi-gamer-town-square/forum/topic/new-xwig-models-and-cards-sighted/
@johnlyons – why don’t we stick it all in a rocket and launch into into space? Answer: Just think of the environmental disaster should the rocket explode on launch, after all the STS (Shuttle system) had a failure rate of about 1 in 70! Also certain space missions have launch with RTG (Radioisotope Thermal Generators, basicaly small lumps of radioactive material) and the environmentalists were shouting about the small (a few kgs) of material being launched then. Back in the mid-90’s when I was studying Space Science at Uni we were told about a mission from ESA being launched with… Read more »
That’s me told 🙂 Thank you for the insight 😀
We were queueing up John. 😎
How about drilling a veeeeery deep hole, and then dropping it down the hole. It always works in the films, except when people throw things down disused mineshafts. Things thrown down disused mineshafts have a way of coming back….
Wrote something but it cut me off so I’ll try to remember . I’ll probably be down voted but I was upset with the conversations regarding mental health. Although I have no issue with the game I certainly won’t buy it. I was saddened by the use of slang words by Justin and Lloyd (sorry guys but I was) to describe sufferers such as nutter etc. if slang words were used for ethnic minorities there would be uproar and rightfully so so I think we should treat people with equal respect as mental health affects everybody at some level. I… Read more »
“Cringe-worthy” would be how I’d describe that section too.
they weren’t having a discussion about mental health – It was clearly obvious they were talking about a game with an entirely fictional setting that references pop culture and fictional horror movie characters, themes and settings. It seems strange to take offence to this and make into something that it isn’t.
I think “taking offence” is different to finding something cringe-worthy. My dancing is cringe-worthy, but no one has been offended by it yet.
Huzzah! Snoopy dance engaged! Thanks BoW and Mantic folksies!!
Congrats ozzyuk. That’s an incredible prize!
Team Yankee does go nuclear in a way. It is set in the reality of Sir John Hackett’s book The Third World War and a couple of cities are taken out in that but no battlefield nukes were used.
Great Weekender, I am now signed up to Lobotomy.
Really enthusiastic about the Team Yankee stuff coming out. The Harrier JJ is a ’70s craft so defiantly well past ‘just being introduced’ by the ’80s. May have to go NATO because Warthog, nuff said. @gazky I’m in total agreeance with you. This game shouldn’t have been given the time of day in my opinion and especially in the manner it was handled. Methos games featuring madness get away with it because these monsters are real and the unfortunate is regarded as mad by a society that will or cannot believe in the awful ‘truth’ these people have seen but… Read more »
I was quite interested in John’s idea about launching nuclear waste into space before Justin interrupted him. 😎
But seriously, the only reasons I can think of against space disposal are the cost and more importantly the risk. If you are launching a cargo of nuclear waste through the stratosphere and it goes bang then I don’t think it would bode well for the human race.
At last. X-Wing. Hurrah!!!
Space elevator is the key I think 🙂
Yes, once we get it into space then it’s problem solved. The elevator might just be the way to do it, so I think we should keep up that nanotube research.
We will need to also solve the space junk problem. As I would’nt think a space elivator could be moved to avoide a collision. Then we’re do we send it, the Moon maybe?
We do what superman did bro 🙂
Tie it all up in a big net and sling it towards the sun!
We can’t send the radioactive stuff to the Moon, because when we terra-form it there would be areas of New Eden that were off bounds. Gotta plan for the future. 😉
If we put it on the moon, then it’ll detonate and send it and the attached Moonbase Alpha hurtling through space.
1,00th floor -Nuclear Waste, thank you
You could dump all your nuclear waste on the moon…. Oh wait maybe thats not such a great idea after all ..lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y1ya-yF35g
Wow, after talking to people about Team Yankee, Third World War, Red Storm Rising, and especially especially especially “Red Army,” someone’s tipped ME off about a CWGH novel I’ve never read or even heard of. Chieftains, eh? Thanks very much, @johnlyons . I’ll be checking that out. 😀
John’s idea about fighting in an “NBC” environment is probably the best idea I’ve seen on BoW re: how to actually incorporate nuclear or post-nuclear table top.
Do it! Infact, PM me dude and we could discuss it 🙂
Purchased and on the way, @johnlyons. I will read when it arrives and PM you thereafter. :).
HI Folks, remember during that period we also had Tactical Nuclear Weapons which were designed at the time to be used on the battlefield. These are the types of weapon that were referred to in Twilight: 2000 rpg.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_nuclear_weapon
Using “nukes” on a “realistic” minis table, even “tactical” nukes, is pretty problematic. I think this is what @johnlyons was talking about. Average FoW tables represent, what, 400-800 feet on a side? Tactical nukes usually ran 20-300 kt, fired from nuclear artillery like the M110A2 at a range of 25 miles (1250 feet at 1/100). So yeah. Then again, I don’t usually use “heavy” artillery or big air strikes on a minis table. Scale, scale, scale. 🙂 “Tactical” nukes against an army usually meant an actually army, (most minis game field platoons or coma is even though we call them… Read more »
Agreed I find the nuclear conundrum on table top fascinating.
At our typical scale of games, they very quickly wipe out a quarter of a table, and if you scale up (or is that down lol) you get to the point where the weapons scale up and then it goes very quickly to MAD (mutually assured destruction) or in games terms – game over
Is the ‘game mode for nuclear’ everything up until first strike?
I agree, @warzan . . . although I would honestly say that even the “average” sized artillery or air strike would wipe out “a quarter” or the entire board completely . . . but that’s my “operational” scale side talking. 🙂 What I was intrigued by, and what I may actually try in some weird way in the near future, is what @johnlyons was saying about a POST-NBC battlefield (NBC = nuclear, biological, chemical). When nukes go off over a certain area (or other weapons of mass destruction), that particular “table” of the “battle area” has in some was become… Read more »
There’s an old BBC film called Threads that dealt with the aftermath of a nuclear war, and its effects on society. Perhaps not very useful for a wargame, but interesting stuff for a role playing game.
Link for it on Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/18781528
If you are looking for source material of the cold war going hot, check out Twilight 2000, published in the 80s and 90s, did a great job of describing immediate aftermath.
Twilight 2000 was an awesome game back in the day. We never did reach Kraków, though …:)
We did. It was bloody awful
As bad as it was even trying to get TO the damned place, I’m not surprised. We had a hugely-overpowered group, too. But I think the more firepower we amassed, the more hostile attention we drew . . . that and we made the game unmanageable. 🙁
Congratulations to all the winners! I am green with envy. Great video as usual.
I LIKED Warren’s segment on nuclear warfare. It introduced us to NUKEMAP, and these occasional digressions onto topics such as nuclear warfare and the finer points of archery make the show a little more interesting and less predictable.
A10! A10! A10! A10! A10! A10! A10!
etc. and so on. Wow!
Folks – the original Harrier entered RAF service in 1969 so yes it (or some of the later variants) would have been there for a late 1980’s hypothetical WW3.
The BAOR was part of the NATO front line, so maybe Battlefront will cover them. I would like to see the West German equipment – Leopard 1 and 2, Marder, Flakpanzer Gepard and suchlike.
“Harrier entered RAF service in 1969 so yes” – Cool and really great looking equipment you listed there. I goggled them and the Flakpanzer Gepard looks like a beast.
Hell yeah, @lloyd -Harriers were the whole Falklands War of 1982 – so they’re definitely ready for a mid80s Team Yankee war! 🙂
I’ve always loved Gepard. Maybe the Brits would get Marksman as thier AA tank, a bit more ugly but still…
We actually had a Gepard in our old Twilight 2000 party . . . or was it a “Sergeant York?” Either way, twin 40mm autocannon in a world without aircraft!! What’s an armoured self-propelled AA gun platform to do? Oooo, look! Dismounted Soviet infantry in the open! Load up the proximity fuzed HE, baby! Time to clock in and do some WORK!
Great video! The Broad Game Lobotomy looks great! It looks like it will be a trip to play and I intend to grab a copy based on your video. Team Yankee is really starting to look interesting. At the very least I expect to get so great minis out of it. Hopefully they will not cripple the Soviets with to many silly rules. Slightly lower training(not SF). Also armored vehicles can catch on fire is all that they need. The fire thing we(grunts in the field anyway) didn’t know at the time. Having seen many T-62/72 set on fire with… Read more »