Using AI To Make Real Miniatures Into HeroQuest Monster Cards! | #Dungeonalia
January 30, 2024 by warzan
Warren has been diving back into HeroQuest but wanted to add unique monsters from his collection into the mix for his avid adventurers to battle against. With that in mind, Warren shows off how to use AI (Midjourney) to make HeroQuest Monsters, build cards for them and eventually drop them into your games.
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Using the AI known as Midjourney, Warren goes through the various stages that are needed to process the images and turn them into HeroQuest cards which can then be printed off to use in-game.
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So the ai art gizmo is a subscription service!
Not interested in anything like that if I can’t do a one off payment and I certainly would not pay $10 a month for it… and that appeared to be the cheap version.
You can just use the $10 worth of credits and turn off the sub. Re sub when you want $10 more.
I keep the sub going at the low level because most months I will get a tenner’s worth out of it. And I appreciate the technology and R&D that’s behind it so I chip in for that 🙂
I find the use of AI art disturbing. Maybe it’s the thought of Skynet.
And I know that a lot of artists object to AI because of how it learns… sampling the art of organic creators to learn.
AI can be used for creative writing too and has been used by students to write essays.
If the creativity of humanity can be reduced to an algorithm we have lost.
Here you go, use this for FREE: https://www.bing.com/images/create
Nothing in life is free… if it looks too good to be true… it isn’t! 🙂
I’m personally finding the use of and championing AI “art” here a bit of a turn-off. It sits counter to the idea of championing indie designers and creators (such as Indie of the week) if the work of artists and illustrators (and these generative AI models are all trained on copyrighted materials) isn’t similarly championed or viewed as worth protecting.
It’s a worrying trend.
Lloyd has been a designer in the creative industries since he was 16 years old. He has led our designs here for 15 odd years. He’s using it as a tool to be more productive and expressive. I have worked in the creative and digital media industry since I was 18 years old, and worked with creative teams for 30 years. I use it to explore expression and ideas and concepts, and yes entertain my family. Its not art, its deliverables. The output serves a purpose of helping to express ideas and concepts in visual ways. Now I ask, do… Read more »
I think the use of AI in Art and other creative skills quite an interesting one. Peoples reaction to it seems almost akin to the treatment of witches in the middle ages. To basically want to burn down the concept of thing we dont really understand. The use of AI is not magic. If anything it holds up a mirror to the way we work. IT breaks this idea we created something really unique and it fact what we create is a some of the parts of our knowledge and experience. That we take and use art, text from sources… Read more »
It’s not AI in itself, and I don’t think anyone is claiming it’s magic we don’t understand. It’s simply that the current set of generative AI tools have all been trained by digesting huge amounts of copyrighted art made by artists. That so many of these tools can spit out art “in the style of…”demonstrates that they’ve been trained on those artists works (and no, it’s not covered under “fair use”). Recent studies have shown that these AI tools can generate content that is alarmingly close to copyrighted works – showing up the underlying sources. AI and LLMs have their… Read more »
Can I ask, is your issue just the training data? If for example the training element was done completely differently, i.e. the model was put on wheels or one of those bi pedal robots and let loose into the world to explore ‘stimulus’ (because that’s what its doing is stimulating and reinforcing pathways between nodes similar to the neural pathways in our brains) if the end result was the same or better (and believe me it would be better) would you have an issue then? Basically I’m trying to understand what the core of this argument is, is it the… Read more »
I think it’s twofold. Yes, there’s a fundamental problem that (at present) the business model of these companies can only stand because they haven’t compensated any of the artists whose work has been directly used to train the models. Bits of these artists work will be baked into the outputs for years to come. If these companies had had to the ethical thing and compensate the artists for the use of their work, I doubt any of them would have got off the ground. I think your point about training an AI on the real world, or even models that… Read more »
“walking the talk” I have been talking about the use of and indeed advocating for AI to a degree for about 2 years now. I admit I stand on the other end of this argument from you and we have some fundamental differences in some of the the really important core elements. You and others are very quick to use words like theft or (its not fair use etc) and you state it as absolute fact. However these conversations would be alot easier and indeed more productive if we took a more cautious approach and tried to understand what this… Read more »
I think it’s a little unfair to say I feel knowledge should be locked away and unaccessible. I never said that. I’m certainly not the only person who is questioning the ethical stance on the use of generative AI trained on other peoples work – is it theft? I don’t think I went that far either. I did say (and I think it’s a defensible position) that the artists whose work has been used in these products (and they are products, as soon as people are paying to use them they have moved from research to ‘product’) should receive some… Read more »
Ohh dont worry there is no fight to be picked! Like I said Im happy to chat about this subject. I’m a little less happy to be ‘judged’ on my/our use of it, but accept there will always be a bit of that 🙂 Your use of phrases like: “Bits of these artists work will be baked into the outputs for years to come” “and no, it’s not covered under “fair use” “they’ve used art from artists without any form of compensation” Leads me to think we are not on the same page as how the technology actually works (obviously… Read more »
You are correct that my use of “Bits of these artists work will be baked into the outputs for years to come” is a simplistic take, referring to these artists work being present to influence the outputs for a long time. “and no, it’s not covered under “fair use” – correct I put my interpretation ahead of the outcome of any legal test (though many cases are going through, or due to go through the courts. “they’ve used art from artists without any form of compensation” – the legal test will provide an answer there, but I can talk a… Read more »
I would love that! Would be a pleasure to chat over a whiskey lol 🙂
Without getting into the debate on the uses of AI art I personally am very grateful to @Warzan for taking the time to show this. What he has been doing is taking pictures of things that he has bought and painted in his own style and generating an image based on his colour choices on a piece of property he owns to increase the submergence of his children into this hobby we all enjoy, and that is, in my opinion a very noble thing to do. I have done similar by using photos of my kids to make walking dead… Read more »
Thanks for this demo Warren absolutely brilliant mate, templates you say well by all means sir.
I just want to say that it was good to see some of the old-style content I joined this site for: members of the team flexing their creativity and trying to inspire the rest of us. It was thoroughly entertaining to see @warzan using the tools available to craft what he can see in his imagination. Sure, the tools themselves are contentious. I’m not here to vent my opinion on the matter, but I do acknowledge it. What I’d like learn from @warzan is what does he do when he has the cards? Do you print them, with what tools?… Read more »
Amazing, thanks for this! Really useful!