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  • #1840997

    sundancer
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    ### Start of shameless copy and paste ###

    First time visitor to OTT? Then please introduce yourself in the New Member Thread and look around in the Project System. Then come back and read on…

    https://www.beastsofwar.com/forums/topic/introduce-yourselves-new-member-thread/

    https://www.beastsofwar.com/project/

    Read all of this before you start as it will save you any trouble later.

    First thing you must do is make your “pledge”. It can be anything gaming related, big or small, and you don’t even have to finish it. No, in here, happiness is the road. Have fun doing whatever it is, but it is not a race. Accompany your work with pictures or we might think you are do something sinister and just using us for cover.

    You are also presented with a few questions. It is to get the conversation started. Try and keep your answers ‘conversational’, no text speak, and certainly no “basically”. This is how we all get to know each other better. While you are here feel free to tell us a story, show a picture, joke, tales of love or woe, or just add your own little bit. This is the whole point…in here it is just us.

    If you have never taken part before we may bark and bite, but we also like a cuddle! It is all done in the best possible taste and it is character building. feel free to give as good as you get.

    A few other things to note: NO RELIGION & NO POLITICS! Glasgow pub rules are in effect. If you need to make a better point then it is fine, but don’t take the piss. And always keep it civil.

    Play plenty of music to go with your work. Loud and through proper speakers. Write us a playlist of things we might not have heard before.

    Now, after all of that there is only one ‘real’ rule in here and it cannot be broken: NO DICKS! (Exceptions may be made for little fighting men with little plastic/resin/metal wieners)

    And don’t forget the highlights of the weekend: The Weekender on Friday and XLBS on Sunday. And the little show that is the unofficial Hobby Hangout over at twitch.tv

    ### End of shameless copy and paste ###

    Questions:

    • Spraycans. Colour primer, varnish or sealer. What’s your take on them?
    • MDF Terrain: prepare it properly or just slap the paint on?
    • Snow on terrain: what do you like to use most for large pieces?

    And now back to the show.

    #1841004

    sundancer
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    Pledge: finish the secret satan, something orky and maybe even my terrain fest entry!

    Answers:

    • Love them. Usually. But not today. See my terrain fest entry for details XD
    • Seal it. Don’t make it go spongy. Single coat of sealant should suffice.
    • Never done large snow pieces, hence the question 😉

    Music:

    #1841029

    blinky465
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    Spraycans? Awesome.
    Far easier, quicker, cleaner, basically all round less hassle than a stupid airbrush.
    (but only for painting – spraying varnish and you’re setting yourself up for a world of hurt with frosting and orange peel finishes – cough, Army Painter, cough).

    MDF Terrain – how do you prepare it properly? You mean prime then paint? Yes, of course, always.
    Or seal with watered down PVA then paint? (nah, who has time for that, when you can just blast it was a squirt from a Halford car paint spraycan – see above). Or just paint (using brushes) straight onto “raw” mdf? No way – that way madness lies!

    Never done snow on terrain. Can’t help, sorry.

     

    I’ve seen a few projects going up for Terrain October (what’s the official title again, I forget?)
    I wasn’t going to bother, as I’d just printed a load of orks for Orktober.
    But now I’m thinking I might join in after all, and make a nice diorama for them to stand on (that counts as terrain, right?)

     

    Here’s your music link. I’ve been going to a few jam nights and listening to a lot of blues lately.
    Don’t turn it off! Some of it is quite good.

    #1841030

    guillotine
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    Pledge: keep cracking on (the appropriate verb for terrain) on my TerrainFest project.

     

    Answers:

    Spraycans: I only use rattle cans for terrain, I have selection of the Army Painter ones and some hardware store stuff. Miniatures I prime and varnish with an airbrush.

    MDF Terrain: I’ve never used shellac, I probably should. Usually for unpainted MDF kits I’ve primed them with a plasticky spray.

    Snow on terrain: I built a Battle of the Bulge board for Bolt Action few years back with some mates. We used a tile grout based mix for the ground cover and the parts we made snowy was first painted white and then some snow flock on. Hasn’t gone yellow so far.

    #1841031

    sundancer
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    I’ve seen a few projects going up for Terrain October (what’s the official title again, I forget?)

    #TerrainFest @blinky465

    make a nice diorama for them to stand on (that counts as terrain, right?)

    Yes!

    We used a tile grout based mix for the ground cover and the parts we made snowy was first painted white and then some snow flock on. Hasn’t gone yellow so far.

    That feels like it’s not really working on this particular set of small town piece @guillotine

    #1841073

    pagan8th
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    Usual pledge… not committing to one 🙂

    Only bought an airbrush in last year, so spray cans I use a lot. Good stuff for priming minis and cheap stuff for priming terrain.

    For MDF I sometimes use PVA solution on to seal… other times I let the burn marks of laser cutter remain to add some contrast.

    Not done much snow terrain, but I picked up some texture paint a couple of months ago and may try that.

    #1841074

    danlee
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    This week’s pledge is to do September’s Raging Heroes print. October’s release included a “Nagash-like” model which required about 6 prints, but I thought “why not?”

     

    I was doing so well with my year’s challenge then today I broke my 3D printer. FEP film life is so variable. I keep an excel sheet of all my 3D prints (I’m that sort of person). My first film for this printer lasted 30 prints, the second 80, then this one failed at 28. I foolishly ignored the warning signs (not 100% perfect prints) and then when it failed it got a hole and resin flowed on to the LCD screen. Now I need to replace the screen which means waiting a week or two for the part to arrive. FEP films are so cheap I need to remember to swap them every 20 prints or so and avoid these problems.

     

    • Spraycans. Colour primer, varnish or sealer. What’s your take on them? – I have tons of coloured primers. I used them for my Mythic Battles: Pantheon paints to speed everything up, and since them haven’t used them. I usually just prime black or wraithbone these days. I don’t varnish unless they’re board game pieces that I’ll be handling a lot. Most of my other models are just for display so no varnish required.
    • MDF Terrain: prepare it properly or just slap the paint on? – Never used MDF terrain.
    • Snow on terrain: what do you like to use most for large pieces? – Never done a large snow terrain piece.
    #1841089

    sundancer
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    Not done much snow terrain

    *sad noises*

    Never done a large snow terrain piece.

    Argh! This is not helping guys! I thought our forum was a well of knowledge that I could just plonk me head into 😉

    Guess I’ll be doing trial and err0r 8)

    #1841102

    blinky465
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    @sundancer and then sharing your findings, right?
    (right….?)

    In other news, I’ve very nearly been tempted by a Kickstarter.
    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kozz/dark-tomb-bloodthorn-island?ref=discovery&term=dark%20tomb
    The play-through videos (of the original game, which you can also pledge for) look interesting; a proper-old-school no-messing-about dungeon crawler.

    The new Kickstarter is just a variation on the original theme, but I quite like the co-op aspect of it and the small sized reveal-as-you-go map – it reminds me of those old computer games, where you’d move from room-to-room, fighting monsters. I quite fancy getting hold of it and then just scaling the map up and using minis instead of tiny wooden blocks. But that it plays so well even without minis suggests that the gameplay is pretty solid. About £35 gets you the original and new release which doesn’t seem unreasonable.

    Has anyone played the original Dark Tomb? Any thoughts?

    #1841129

    pagan8th
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    Argh! This is not helping guys! I thought our forum was a well of knowledge that I could just plonk me head into ?

    We are a well knowledge… seems we just dried up a bit…

    #1841163

    sundancer
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    and then sharing your findings, right?
    (right….?)

    Yes!

    seems we just dried up a bit…

    Can we blame G’Wullu for this?

    Good morning, it’s Sunday! XLBS needs to wait a bit today.

    #1841291

    gorram
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    Happy weekend everyone! It’s been my Saturday on so today was mostly spent in a fug. Pledge for the week is to find something fun to do with hobby. The last couple of weeks have been really hard mentally and emotionally and my brain doesn’t have the space needed to problem solve on my Orctober project right now. I think I’ll need to rummage around for something that requires little mental involvement.

    Questions:

    Spraycans. Colour primer, varnish or sealer. What’s your take on them? I use them all the time. I avoid Army Painter after some bad experiences but I’m as big fan of the TTCombat and Colour Forge ones. Colour Forge come in nicer sized cans but I find the TTCombat ones maintain detail better.
    MDF Terrain: prepare it properly or just slap the paint on? I usually spray them with satin/gloss varnish and then spray primer but I’m also a hugely lazy person when it comes to terrain so it depends on how many f***s I can find to give
    Snow on terrain: what do you like to use most for large pieces? I was looking for a similar answer myself recently and went back to the Terr Tutor’s snow and water playlist. Hopefully that might have something of use to you

    Not been listening to much music this week, mostly just podcasts. Did watch this new Time Team episode on the Easy Company camp before D-Day. I love this kind of thing

    #1841298

    sundancer
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    went back to the Terr Tutor’s snow and water playlist.

    Totally forgot about that. He had this huuuuuge snow fort table build! Thanks @gorram

    I also watched that D Day dig. Time Team is really relaxing stuff to watch.

    What’s not so relaxing today: I wanted to use my airbrush for the first time in ages. Turned it on and it just didn’t pass any paint what so ever. Took it apart, cleaned it, spray multiple cups of cleaner through it and tried again. And again: nothing. Repeat process and now it’s not even pulling water through.

    I increased the pressure but that too only help little to none. I’m not sure where the problem is. Back to normal pressure and no needle in it liquid gets sprayed but no matter how far back I pull the trigger there is no paint coming out. I even changed needle and nozzle to a .5mm setup and still no spray.

    The bloody thing is now soaking in airbrush cleaner (the front part up to the cup) and I will try again tomorrow. And “tried and tested tips” are *very* welcome.

    Off to bed now.

    #1841330

    blinky465
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    I’m afraid the only “tried and tested” tip I have for any airbrush – given I can only ever get mine to sneeze paint over my minis – is to sack it off and get some rattle cans. Never had a problem with rattle cans – and for terrain, you don’t really need *that much* precision do you?

    #1841331

    blinky465
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    @gorram – I’ve also had problems with Army Painter spray cans; I loved the idea of colour-matched primers and bought about a dozen different colours. Almost all of them suffered the same problem – far to goopy and they obscured the details of every mini I put near them. I thought I was holding the minis too close so backed them off, but then the primer went speckled (I was clearly too far away).

    Not sure where the rest of you guys are – and it probably won’t help @sundancer, with him being in Germanyland – but I’ve found here in the UK, Halfords matt black (paint not primer) and Halfords grey and Halfords white primers to be fantastic for priming/zenith highlighting. Even if you’re a bit heavy-handed with the spray, it seems to “shrink to fit” and makes every detail pop.

    I’m a recent convert to slapchop painting and love Halfords paints – matt black base then zenith with grey and drybrush with white. Prior to slapchop I’d prime black and zenith straight to white. Halfords rattle can paints are just amazing.

    What ever you do, don’t go near Army Painters’ “anti-shine” matt spray varnish.
    Unless you want a frosty white miniature.
    It’s dreadful stuff. I’ve started just brushing on W&N acrylic matt varnish from a big bottle I picked up at WHSmith. Works a treat.

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