Cult Of Games XLBS: Making History Fun; Drop The Boring Bits!
September 24, 2023 by warzan
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It’s the XLBS SHow……….Happy Sunday Fellow CoGs!
Good show for more info. As always we can count on quality banter. History versus fantasy is an interesting conundrum with the like of games like SAGA (for example). Making things up is precisely why there are the timeframe tomes versus that of Age of Magic. For the rest of things I feel thoroughly entertained and informed as far as the goings on with the crew and community for the week.
To my mind every historical game is a “what if’ game. Yes you do all the research and you have what is hopefully correct OOB’s for the combatants involved and hopefully if available a close approximation to the terrain the battles/seiges were fought and then its down to the players what happens next
Pretty on the money!
@warzan check this link out. Good wider picture of how the British and the locals thwarted Napoleon’s plans in the Med. Really cool story well told by LindyBiege. https://youtu.be/jdM3ID4m38U?si=YFGSTOlG2It_U-2b
I’ll check that. Haven’t watched one of Lindy’s videos for a while. Not sure why I stopped watching!
@warzan Definitely something off if that dice print failed and if the results are so random. Could be any number of things, I would just check everything with the printer, the FEP condition, build plate levelling and zeroing etc. And when you’re debugging, use a file that you know should print successfully, with safe supports and settings. And sorry if this is twisting the knife in regards to FDM printing… I got a Prusa Mk4 FDM printer in summer, took it out of the box and did the basic setup. I’ve printed bunch of terrain bits and non wargaming stuff… Read more »
Happy Sunday everybody. God bless and may your Sunday be full of hobby fun.
Happy Sunday one and all.
There is a danger of fretting needlessly. We are wargamers, not historians. Even the most finely crafted table and collection of models will only ever be an approximation of historical events. In addition, if we want a game with any level of interest, the outcome cannot be known at the start, so gaming events are very likely to differ from real historical events during the game. I would be shocked to find there are individuals who are GENUINE wargame hobbyists who would attack any project executed in good faith. I could see a situation where non gaming historians may pass… Read more »
Historically accurate… example. The war of the three kingdoms (ECW) is based on histories written fairly close to the period (17th century), memoirs, diaries, even songs and poems have been lent on to piece together what happened. That period in history terms is not that long ago. But even serious publications can have amazing ranges of numbers of those involved in battles and how it played out. Some of the Marquis of Montrose campaigns in Scotland (relatively small battles) can have numbers presented like “2000 to 3500” troops on one side… What? It was maybe 2000, or maybe nearly twice… Read more »
The goblins went well for me in places? Did they though?
Hi XLBSers happy Sunday.
Napoleon he got lost when he was going to Amarillo ?
Is that not part of the charm getting people taking about the battle an you can get more information about the battle for you an other’s.
Ooh Gerry doing dolly with the trolley job showing off the goods.
The answer is very simple, its your game do what you want with it. as say before must historical games are what ifs so call it Acre, call it what you like, as long as you and the people you are playing with enjoy it, who cares
Good work Ben.
Oddly for me, being historically accurate as far as possible, within certain periods, is the fun bit. But it varies, in line with my own historical knowledge. So while my 38t tanks have the correct number of rivets, my Napoleonic armies are far looser in accuracy terms. It’s a direct equation to my book shelves, where 90% of my books are WW2 based! That said, Military history is ‘fun’. Im not sure what the boring bits are, but as always, there is a sub text that somehow, being historically accurate/interested to a minute degree, somehow imparts connotations that historical gamers… Read more »
That 2nd Saladin looks like the spitting image of Russell Brand!
Sunday? 00:00 There’s people on my screen… why? 01:30 Dinobots! 02:00 “A coupple quick bits” … sit back, grab a cup, this will take a while. 04:30 I’ve seen a video on that by Extra History. It’s cool. @warzan give this a look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjoS_uTtmTs&list=PLhyKYa0YJ_5CvuRAKaM69klvG54Gs5LYs 06:30 Rabbit! 09:15 “hmmmm” 10:00 @lloyd building Rome yet? 18:30 Karawansy! 24:00 Flying dice! 27:00 Tool Time! *hur hur hur hur hur* 28:30 the tool using the tool… a tools errant. 33:00 At that amount of time spent “printing” you could sculpt that by hand! XD 😉 34:45 “by the time you watch this…” is the… Read more »
A fabulous show guy’s.
Yes research is a huge part of the fun for some people, and they can put on some super-realistic simulation. It’s a game, and the purpose is to have fun. Go easy on yourself. Love history but piss on the nitpickers.
There’s nothing wrong with “representing” situations- you are always going to get bean counters who will get huffy cos you’ve used the wrong type of crenelations on the wall who will hate it. Most will be happy. I remember in the past thou people lifting battles such as Napoleon era Waterloo and twisting it into medieval Italy or 80yrs war. It’s no different to recreating starship troopers using guard and nids!
quick fix on lift for fdm plates. use glue sticks on the areas that are lifting
Pritt stick (or Tesco-own-brand) ftw!
I always smear a thin layer of Tescos-not-pritt-stick on my build plate before starting the first layer. Sure, it looks ugly. But it keeps the bugger stuck down!
@warzan Napoleon did indeed lay siege to Acre in 1799. He invaded Syria to counter an anticipated Turkish attack into Egypt. The siege was a failure, partly due to his siege artillery being intercepted by the Royal Navy enroute along the coast. In fact the British redeployed the captured guns into Acre to defend it from the French. The siege lasted 62 days and included 40 assaults and 20 sallies; it could be very interesting to game various scenarios around the siege.
Oh wow, amazing! I’m not sure what to say, except thank you very much.