One of CM Valrak’s sources (Alpharulius I think) has told him second half of June I believe which isn’t too far away now.

Would make sense for the hype train to start rolling if that’s the case.

If tanks are so overpowered, doesn’t that mean the first player to lose their tank loses the game?

That sounds very boring.

@hobbyhub except ‘current’ edition started in 8th as a way to undo all the bloat previous versions had gathered … and it was for the first few weeks. Then they released the codexes and undid practically all of the work.

I’d also argue that ‘current’ edition could do with something to break up the I-go-U-go style that practically makes alpha striking such a powerful tactic. Expand 9th edition with a similar rule and you’re done.

In all the years GW has never ever shown that they care about ‘balance’ in the way that other companies do because it would wreck their sales model.

Heck … the simple fact that you don’t get any anti-vehicle weapons in that starter set (but you can buy one of 4 ‘optional’ boxes with weapons that would improve your chances) is enough ‘proof’ of how this set is clearly meant to get you to buy more stuff by default. A Classic GW sales model … and we already know there’s going to be more faction specific books to ‘expand’ the game.

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@tankkommander every box sent out for ‘free’ = ‘free advertising’ … so I doubt it is going to eat into the price ‘we’ pay.
Never mind that youtubers that got these ‘free’ boxes are not hobbyists.(period)
They are companies that need to generate profit too.
The only difference is that they keep pretending they are not … which is something I doubt mr taxman will believe (unless they hide the income they generate … ).

Must admit as an HH fan I was excited when the news came out, especially for a new boxed set under 200 quid packed with minis. Now the initial thrill has worn off and I get to see it in real life, I must admit the enthusiasm has been somewhat dampened.

I have to agree with what others have said about the pitfalls of using the older rules and about the new box set being unbalanced and designed to force people to then part with extra cash to even out their forces – the usual GW “dealers” getting their addicts hooked so they can keep hitting them up for more cash.

And at the minute I’m struggling to find enough difference between 30k and 40k (apart from the context and the lore) to justify starting again and spending a sh1t tonne of money and a hell-of-a-lotta build and paint hours to end up with something which I essentially already have and already play – if I want space marines killing space marines I can play 40k Dark Angels vs Space Wolves, whilst appeasing the most puritanical 40kayer by making up some fluff about Chapter honour or chaos taint. I think in the end, GW will need to show me enough variance between 30 and 40k and get their hooks well into my imagination before I can be convinced to start down the 30k path.

In a way we need to take a step back from seeing the HH box as a “bargain”. Over the years we’ve become so accustomed to high GW prices that we’re starting to see a “starter box” for £200 as “value”. We have to remember that very important phrase here is “starter box” (or rather it’s the first steps down a very expensive rabbit hole). For that £200 you could buy a new washing machine or big screen tv (ok, not a great one but still) rather than some sprues of plastic (to give you an idea of how much profit margin there is in GW plastic). Ok, it’s a hobby and hobby supplies cost. But when you look at what that very same £200 can buy you in historicals or even just other “sci-fi” plastics it’s a LOT more (why you could buy 10 boxes of Perry plastics and get about 420-480 28mm figures).

…or finally that £200 is well on the way to buying your first 3D printer 😀

I take both of your comments on board – its always good to hear the voice of reason from someone wiser than myself (not hard to find, I know).

Especially the point about a 3D printer. That’s got my mind wandering now.

The decision has now been made for me however (funny enough now by the Missus for a change).
The Chaos gods have reached out from the warp and have corrupted my power washer.
So the 200 odd quid I had earmarked for potentially spending on the HH starter set must instead be invested in a new power washer.

Fortunately everything I need is included in the box – if it was a GW manufactured power washer I would have to buy the starter kit with only the base unit in the box – the hose would come in a separate kit, the lance in another, the fittings in another, and I would need to spend 25 quid on an instruction manual before I could even turn it on – and the instruction manual would be obsolete this time next year and I’d have to buy another one.
Hmmmmm……comparing apples to oranges….or GW to Karcher….