Thanks for your help Gerry.  I’ll keep an eye on thigs.  Not convinced my group will adopt anything new.  Just toying with ideas.  My last game of 40k was super painful.  I asked a rules question and I couldn’t find anything conclusive that said what I was asking was wrong as I found all the language was open to interpretation.  I was trying not to be a dick.  I just wanted to understand.  The game broke down for an hour, even after I asked to just go with my opponents interpretation early on.  What should have been a 1 hour game took 4ish hours and it feels like it may have cost friendships.  I just wanted to learn how the game was supposed to work and now I suspect that opponent doesn’t ever want to play against me again.  I tried to let it go, but because I wouldn’t concede that he was 100% right (research after the fact suggests he is as I cannot find anyone contradicting me, or doing what I thought might be right.  If no one was doing it then it can’t be the rule), he wouldn’t let me.  I’m blaming the rules for being badly written and vague.  I hate that they seem to flip back and forth between treating a unit as single entity (Rank and Flank), and treating it as a collection of individuals (Skirmish), often within the same paragraph or rule.  It’s a confusing mess.

My group was hard to organise anyway, and now I fear this incident is making it harder to get a games day in.  I’ll check out Firefight when it goes free as a pdf.  If it’s interesting then hopefully we have enough suitable stuff to get a few games in.  I may have the one page rules grimdark somewhere.  I’ll give that a look too.

Thank you.