Weekender XLBS: Frankenstein Style Game Design!
October 19, 2014 by warzan
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Happy Sunday!!!!
As for the Frankengame, how about you mix up all your minis and each mini uses the rules from its respective game? So you get Wolsung vs Deadzone vs Kings of War vs DUST all shooting and moving their own ways. Total, chaotic fun!
that would be awesomely complex lol
Holy crap I won something.
Spoiler alert !
Gratz
I’ve always wanted to play a WW2 era campaign based on a risk board, say each army in Risk is worth a number of points (1000 or 500). When it comes to battles in risk, play them out on the tabletop. I’d use bolt action as the base game with single unit activation, but use the phase sequence from 40k, switching the shooting phase and the movement phase because that always made more sense to me, and works much better in practice. I’d also throw an extra die into the bolt action bag, one that when drawn ends the turn… Read more »
Oohh I will have to try that!
Second XLBS in a row that’s cut out after 20 minutes because ‘my browser doesn’t support content’. grrrr
Franken-gaming sounds like my nightmare lol. Though we could always play Calvinball – http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zRSvuGbL2L0/TE0I0GlkcTI/AAAAAAAAAg4/kpmU0AfcOAA/s1600/Calvinball+5-27-90.jpg
Ah Calvin and Hobbes, great cartoon.
Ah – the chair stress test? As a large chap myself I know the perils!
Warhammer store branding…might just work. As for their spread of brands, some rationalisation would be sensible. I reckon Warhammer for the games, forgeworld for the specialist products, Black Library & White Dwarf… all product ranges. Citadel still has a place for modelling products such as the paints; not for when they’re selling through shops but as a recognised brand through 3rd party retailers.
But does the new store branding then limit how they create a new game IP to replace LOTR?
Here in France it s fairly common to call miniatures games “warhammers” just like for older people nintendo is a generic name for gaming console.
Happy Sunday.
It’s been a while since the ‘inclusive’ discussion Warren initiated kicked off. This week – sexism… A senior female executive leading a big player such as GW would be a great message to the world. Here’s a few statements to trigger matters: – Joel (from Anvil) commented in the weekender about their depiction of females in mini form. He alluded to other manufacturer’s unrealistic (and dare I say mediterranean mysogenistic) depiction of female minis. Having just showed my new Op:Ice models to my daughter I felt slightly uncomfortable. – There are lots of stories in the press of online female… Read more »
GW Exec – I think would potentially be a good choice firstly on merit as she is apparently a very talented executive, secondly as I personally feel that the company in question and the industry at large could benefit from a change of perspective. It’s the whole sexy vs sexist debate, no clear answers there, I suppose the question is… Is it enough for the industry to cover all the angles or does every manufacturer also have to do it in their own right as well? A good question. Correct we haven’t, have you anyone you would like to see… Read more »
A catch 22 – There are too few female gamers, so we scare off those who would be interested by being a boys club.
I think Warren alluded to something several shows back… two scenarios: 1) “Pew-pew-pew.. you’re dead!” “What you boys doing?” “Playing toy soldiers” “Oh… see-ya” 2) “So having succeeded in overcoming your staunch defence, Warrenus Jonson finally …” “What you boys doing?” “Resolving the outcome of a complex narrative that’s been very evolving for a few weeks before begining a new storyline!” “Oh – can I join in?” Over simplistic I know, but I know several female gamers who love the D&D style game – minis are then only accessories to the story. With my son away at Uni, will I… Read more »
WarhammerJoey!
I love her to bits!
Without getting my freak on, ofcourse.
“There are lots of stories in the press of online female gamers getting a tough ride whenever they have an opinion on forums and being abused, trolled, threatened with sexual violence in the real world; hopefully that’s just online”
Lots of stories this past week in fact what with the #gamergate cesspool.
Happy to have Joey over, but I’m pretty sure she has her hands full these days 😉
There’s also Dice Bag Lady https://www.facebook.com/TheDiceBagLady
Wargamer Girl https://www.youtube.com/user/WarGamerGirl
and DizzyAngelDemon https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQIwEgkVk48WO2FwBbPZWVg.
What’s she doing? Besides working on Total War2?
Question is are GW interested in generating new IP or just in going along with the old on they have maybe add a WH10k or something
What’s this on the MYth delay.
Last news from megacon is that it cleared customs and is on it’s way to delivery would start monday.
Is there a new delay or was this the delay you where talking about?
We are probably talking about the same thing.
Right, thanks.
So? Warren you are suggesting a tabletop version of Calvinball? (Calvin and Hobbles fans will understand, but essentially each player changes the rules on the fly). I am severely disappointed with GW rebranding, Black background with white letters and serif on top of that? it feels more like a newspaper than a wargaming store, good observation that they have burned their brands goodwill and now try to use the relatively untarnished and better known Warhammer brand forward, but also well spotted that it will end up the same if they do not change their tactics, of course this will only… Read more »
Calvinball, You’ve beat me to it.
I beat both of you to it 😉
So you did. Well great minds think alike.
My weekend is now complete thank you
Warren I am from Chiswick and I must say you said it wrong :p
Not that I’m bothered I just wanted a claim to fame 😉
Being from Chiswick is as about as epic as a claim to fame could be.
Ha ha! 🙂 Hey man ..I know people
Yeah Chiswick has a silent “W” however now with the store called Warhammer if that was a silent W it would be pronounced ‘Arhammer….. 🙂
Which would really confuse them in Manchester when the are doing DIY…hey ‘Ar Kid can you fetch us ‘Arhammer so I can bang dis nail in….
Does the re-branding mean they will be moving even more to only pushing Warhammer & 40K? We know they are more and more reluctant to support their smaller games. I’d like to see (and I know this will never happen!) Games Workshop using the advantage of their “bricks and mortar” stores to stock games from other manufacturers. Imagine going into a Games Workshop store and seeing Warhammer, 40K, Bolt Action, FoW and others. Surely that would bring more people in. It’s not unprecedented in the industry, we see Warlord stocking some Perry and Perry stocking Blitzkrieg. Once again I KNOW… Read more »
That’s how Games Workshop started off with the one store in Hammersmith selling board games, jigsaws and citadel miniatures.
Yes, but that was long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away! Or not since I was at school 😉
One mechanic I’d throw into any Franken-Game? Three words: Sustained Fire Dice. One of the elements of 2nd Edition 40k & 1st Edition Necromunda that was immensly tense, especially in Necromunda where sustained fire weapons were hideously expensive and jamming could **** up your whole plan, and in 40k if you had Assault Cannon, where rolling three jams meant you exploded. Hilarious when paired with the old rules for the Cyclone Missile Launcher on a Wolf Guard as exploding could potentially mean your remaining payload (you only had twelve shots total originally) either all fired off in one humongous salvo,… Read more »
Why do you think,they changed their name to MegaCON 😉
lost of interesting topics today, the rebranding of GW im my opinion it might work, but unless they go back to the days of open trading allowing insider access for people like BoW and actually listening to there customers and the gaming community i don’t think it will matter what they rebrand they will just be flogging a dead horse so to speak. A mash up of wargames actually sounds quite fun, you could do it for the skirmish games too In Her Majesty’s Name, Wolsung, Malifaux, Infinity and many more would be crazy fun lol. Thanks again for a… Read more »
happy sunday, even if I am a bit late to the party….
Whatever the latest state of play with the Myth omnishambles, predictably they’ve not condescended to let us backers know.
Treat your customers like this, you lose customers. I’ll not be giving Megacon another penny ever again.
Great show again guys thanks.
I think the thing I would switch into other games without hesitation is the Bolt Action order dice mechanic. Apart from infinity, which is a bit too complex in its turn construction to do it and due to ARO’s doesn’t really need it, all the games I play, from 2nd edition 40k and above, would benefit from that sort of variation in turns.
On freestyle gaming/frankengaming – how about combining all of your favourite selections of wargaming rules with the general idea from Fluxx, and building the changes in game mechanics into the game mechanics?
Would be fantastically head-messing, but the look on your opponents face when you change the mechanics to suit yourself just before they make their glorious victory charge would be worth it :p
I am norwegian pledger on afterlife, and it looks awsome, the game and the fluff of it all. cant wait til get my go on this skirmish awsomnes, pledge £65
If you can’t find femal gamers for the show then maybe you could do a gamer wife’s episode. I think it would be great to get the better half perspective on the hobby.
Also, they alternating battle group mechanic from DzC would be a great addition to any large army game.