Weekender XLBS: New Direction Needed for Games Workshop?
August 10, 2014 by lloyd
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Dropzone IS AWESOME!!!!!
I love me my everyday weekender : D
I literally posted an offhand message this morning asking if you guys would consider covering warzone resurrection… I am severely tempted to ask you to draw my name for a give-away now; not by way of a request but just because **Daddy’s on a ROLL!**. Really excited about the new shows, glad I joined the backstage 🙂
Really like the sound of the new Backstage format. Will be good to get the extra details and info.
It will be fascinating to see what happens with GW this year, It feels like a make or break year.
Dropzone looks to be tons of fun. Really want to try it out.
Iv been tempted for so long to play drop zone but lack of cash excellent show again guys 🙂
The apprentiship sounds like a wonderful opportunity for some lucky guy or gal. Oh to be a young man again.
Where are the t shirts at the UK backstager meet ups you tight feckers and I don’t mean you just give out the one you just spent 12 hours travelling in.
Watching you guys makes me wish we could comment in real time – obviously the IP to go with is 40k Legos! Get’em young with a hobby that’s already blindingly expensive; who wants to put together the 300 piece hive tyrant with working jaw? I personally don’t think they should go IP at all; it’s an expensive proposition and I think you’re more likely to introduce players to the IP than IP fans to the games. I think their best move would be to create a third tier of production models – FW, GW & …. HW? Picture this, Heresy… Read more »
I think they need to give options for all variety sizes of games. I personally really like smaller games like 40k combat patrol. I can’t always afford 2-3hrs for a game now a days
You’re right that licensing the IP almost never results in better game sales. Look at FASA. They made Battletech incredibly popular with the Mechwarrior series of PC games in the 90s, but none of those people picked up a rulebook and started playing the tabletop game. Same thing happened with Shadowrun. The Genesis and SNES videogames were extremely popular (and still sell well today at vintage stores), but not many of those people started playing pen & paper Shadowrun as a consequence. Some of that was due to Jordan Weisman essentially abandoning the tabletop market for a while, but I… Read more »
Interesting discussion about GW. Do you think, they will go bancrupt sooner or later?
That wont be happening any time soon. And they would sell long before they went bankrupt. Their sales are only down roughly 10% its enough to shock them awake but nothing to damaging. They still made what 12million gbp profit? Thats pretty good when you consider this industry and how small it is.
Get up this morning, get my coffee, get settled down and ready for a follow up to yesterday’s show; I’m all ready to be shown Technicals and Party Buses…
Oh. Not a DZC show…
No worries, it’s still good stuff! The follow up show will appear soon, I’m sure. It’s a testament to BoW that you can get me looking forward to a show about a game that I have no intention of playing!
Now I know I mentioned on facebook that I needed Shaltari for my wife but I’d be quite happy to take one of those starter kits off your hands and give the UCM to my daughter 🙂
I feel one of the biggest issues with GW’s loss of profits is the one topic that you have only recently been talking about, the price. As the cost constantly increases so does the barrier for potential new players. I got into 40k is the late 90’s and was able to build up a respectable Guard army over the course of a couple of months on a part-time job. Even then it was, relatively speaking, an expensive hobby but it was possible. But wages have been rather stagnant in the past decade or so (in the US anyway) and it… Read more »
Sorry but, is anyone having buffering issues with this video? Maybe we are putting the server to its limit? 🙁
If all the 40k units were realistic then every space marine chapter would use exactly the same hardware because it’d be the ‘best’ stuff available. I’m glad Space Wolves are getting themed so heavily. In fact I want MORE mental stuff in the other chapters! Plus, if you shot king kong in the bonce he’d shrug it off, and while the Thunderwolves are not king kong-sized they are cybernetically-enhanced giant wolves!!! 😀 PLUS… and I know that back in the old days (technical term) cavalry was used heavily because of it’s effect on morale. I saw a documentary where they… Read more »
I’m looking forward to meeting my fellow BoW members at Gen Con. I’ll be the redhead with the Ghost Bear tattoo on his arm!
Another great show. And I agree about Logan Claus. It looks ridiculous. Lol
Love the idea of backstage companion shows to go with the frontstage ones.
Glad to hear about the new Wolfsung SSG show. Games Workshop seem to be throwing out their IP to any video game developer of later (9 releases between 2014 and 2015), and some of it is absolute gash. I hope that this doesn’t damage the company beyond repair by souring the IP to those new to it. Whilst I no longer play any of their games, however I feel they fulfil an important role in the industry and that is introducing people to the overall hobby. Which puts the company in a difficult space, how do you provide constant interest… Read more »
Sorry make that 16 new video games, forgot to look at the Fantasy side of things. Through interesting that one of the items listed is unknown WFB being made by Creative Assembly, the people behind Total War, could we be getting Total War Warhammer……?
rumours for long enough, creative assembly had it as one of their possible development routes before they started work on Rome 2, at the time there was still a strong modding community that had done a brilliant set of mods and submods based on Medieval 2
at the time, still looked cool but now that it’s ages somewhat, be an awesome way to reinvent the Total War series as well as to shine a new light on the warhammer fantasy world – fingers crossed!!
apologies, *’aged somewhat’
Nothing wrong with more dropzone. It’s awesome
Mmmmm starter sets…
BoW is becoming the Gamer Christmas with all the fantastic prizes you’re handing out. It is testament to the amazing work you are doing and the worldwide popularity of BoW in the gaming community that all the companies making the products we play and collect, all support those efforts even further with a continuous stream of give aways. At the risk of making an ass of myself because I haven’t seen the full XLBS yet, one show I do miss is your crossover with Geek & Sundry on boardgames. Any chance of that, or something similar, returning?
Looking to get my club into dropzone.
Another nice hour spent on the couch listening to you guys rambling 🙂
GW aren’t going to dig their way out with someone else’s IP. Those are always very restrictive and only good for one shot games. Not enough factions to retain long term interest.
Anyway, that drop zone starter box would like mighty fine on my landing pad…
I played Shattered Void at Salute and loved it, it was so quick to learn and easy to play, if this is still correct the rules are going to be a free download and youll be able to download 2d proxies to use. the biggest ship in the game will be corvette size the first ship Warren showed mostly bombers and fighters.
I am in complete agreement with GW needing a new IP. I stopped buying their products after I preordered Dark Vengeance, and before that, I hadn’t bought anything for about 2 years. I was shocked when I came back to it to see the prices. (Saying that though, the other day I found a plastic demon prince and the new 10 man space marine tac squad, still in shrink wrap in a charity shop, £5 all together. Score.) Their prices are horrifying, I find it a pay off thing, its a large amount of money for something you won’t have… Read more »
i so wish i lived in NI 🙁 great show guys!
i would love to see specialist games come back and be better supported in the stores. with how plastics are working for GW they could re-release all the specialist games with plastic minis and everyone would be happy:) imagine plastic necromunda crews, or all plastic BGF fleets……
absolutely! one of the greatest slip ups GW has made in the last decade (if you ask me) was to neglect the Specialist Games A return to Warhammer Quest a decade ago could have done a lot to draw young blood into the hobby, as could Space Hulk (remember when I first got into it, loads of people my age at school loved the fluff, loved the mini’s but balked at the price even then) – got a particular hero? Great. He/she happens to have a whole bunch of friends who he/she likes to go out cracking skulls with, and… Read more »
None of the specialist games make enough money or bring enough people to the main lines to make them viable. Most of them just generated a load of dead stock. Warren is right, GW need a line that will shift large numbers of minis. Anything else would be a waste of time and money.