They look great @piers.  It looks unusual to see the SS in just one colour,  but I find it refreshing.  Now we have seen T-34s and now the SS in winter dress, so are these the prelude to the pending release of the Stalingrad rules for Battlegroup?

Another question for you. Northag is it a completely different rules set or does it share and or extend the Battlegroup rules? I see a number of modern 10mm scale vehicles are being released from The Plastic Soldier Company.  Are these for Northag. Does this mean Northag will be optimized for 10mm in a similar manner to Battlegroup is optimized to 20mm, yes I know it can be used with other scales.

For the moment our group is reduced to building and painting new armies, scenery and adding improved paint jobs to older armies.

Wow ! Nice paint job .

Lovely work buddy, have you done any tutorials of how you paint infantry in the projects?

Awesome do you have a link to one, please? Went back through your Northag and Battlegroup projects but they are mainly galleries with build shots.

Cheers buddy

Sorry @piers i forgot to mention in my last reply that i totally agree with BG not distinguishing between the SS and other Heer formations.  The SS super trooper is a myth.  Even my own research of them quickly found them to be a very mixed bag, even over time. Such as the SS 6th Mountain Division in Finland dropped their equipment and stampeded nearly 50km before their officers could bring them under control when they were fired upon for the first time. Yet this same division gave the Americans so much trouble after the battle of the Bulge. The foreign SS divisions were hardly as good as the Luftwaffe field divisions.

We tend to look at a SS division’s performance for a given battle and adjust their stats based upon it. Such as the 5th SS division on the Eastern front tended to be very wasteful with their men for little gains to show for it. To reflect this we lower the points cost for the unit and adjust their saving rolls to be lower than other units. We look at other factors such as with the high turnover of troops we list them as being greener than other SS units. So overall our SS units on the average are just normal German units with more and or better equipment.

Thanks for a great reply @piers. I must admit for myself I am truly anal retentive, but I don’t expect it from others.

Such as if you brought these figures to my place to play a game set in France 1940 I would let it pass and only complementing on how great they look. For me I could not do it. The out of time figures would annoy the hell out of me. So I know exactly where you are coming from. The problem is that if not controlled anal retentiveness can kill enthusiasm in others, they feel that nothing is good enough for us. So my approach to others is to in a case like this to allow the small details to pass and even expand it. Such as who cares if we use these figures in 1940. After a while I will see a period they prefer such as battles of 43 in Italy.  I would start encouraging to paint within that period, like showing them colour plates of SS wearing Italian camouflage. So hopefully they find it cool to paint historically accurate.  It does not matter to me if they don’t have the correct colour either. If it persists I may buy them the correct colours as a present. The Panzer Fausts and assault rifles I could not let pass in a 1940. Like I hate and can’t stand documentaries on the fall of France and they insist on showing the clip of the inspection of the King Tiger Battalion. Like really!!! They were not even a designer’s dream in 1940.

So given this it is the norm for me to open up possibilities of play for figures like these rather then pin someone to an exact date. Hopefully without sounding condescending as that is not my intention.  For me on the other hand I near bought shares in the Plastic Soldier Company for my next project a US army from 42 to 45. Due to my anal retentive issues I have nearly 80 Sherman tanks in the cupboard.  Simply because I really cannot bring myself to use M4A1s when M4s were historically used. Because of the my German collection is growing fast in Pz-IIIs and IVs is growing fast for the same reason.

On another thing may I complement you on painting the uncovered helmets grey. It really adds to the atmosphere.  It seems to me that grey helmets are somewhat out of fashion with many painters who prefer to use dark green or yellow.

Again thanks for the reply, I am off to start weathering my T-44 that can’t be used with your figures because it it winter.