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Having been making alot of scenery recently I’ve come to the conclusion that whatever detail 4ground scenery adds – the amount of fiddling it takes, and what it looks like afterwards (one cock up and it looks very sub par) is not worth it. Some of their kits are better than others but some of them i’ll just look at it and know parts of it I wont even bother with.
its now far worth my time buying cheaper mdf kits (which incidentally purely from a walls/floors interlocking point of view are way easier to put together) and just do the rest from scratch. it almost like over teching something which doesn’t need to be.
Is this just me or a wider view?
To me, it all depends on the scenery item itself and the use of it. If you need loads to fill out a big table then the more simple is great. For smaller game tables then IMO details can be picked up more easily by the eye, so the 4ground stuff makes more sense.
I have found it’s best to construct the more elaborate 4Ground buildings in stages, don’t try to do it all at once. It does require a lot of patience, and even then some aspects (doors, roofs, anything long & thin) end up somewhat rickety and vulnerable. Typically when I get to the end of the project I am impressed with the results. And as far as competition goes, Sarissa stuff is more affordable, but I’ve had the same qualms about assembly with their stuff as well, and in the end their product just looks more basic and pops less on the table.
Personally I really like the 4ground stuff. I have found it better to use Gel Superglue rather than PVA however to build them.
However, since getting a 3D printer I have taken to printing and painting my terrain rather then buying it. In the long run it is cheaper for me (not accounting for painting time etc) and I am finding the wide variety of models out there to be good (esp paid for models)
my biggest complaint with it is finding the 3d models. easier said than done. so many tinpot cottage industries with weird names that you have no hope of finding with cursory searches of the internet.
At the end of the day its down to choice and preference. I have enjoyed the 4ground buildings and I do like how they can be immediately played with/on etc. the detail on them is good-excellent, better than sarissa but the variety in the range is lacking as a result, and that’s before you paint it.
It really depends on the game and the type of terrain I’m after.
I have the complete set of buildings for The Chicago Way, it took loads of time to put together but man I’m pleased with the results. The game lends itself incredibly well to action inside the buildings, having the designs to make them playable but also very detailed inside just adds so much to the game. In fact, if there wasn’t 4Ground level terrain available to it, I probably wouldn’t bother with the whole game.
I also really like how the 10mm Jesserai buildings look — I have some of them for Dropzone Commander. But for such small buildings they took awful lot of time to do, and I did feel I could have gotten really close to same level with cheaper, simpler kits with some DIY detailing. Plus in 10mm scale the 3mm MDF walls you get with cheap kits is fine, whereas for 28mm they look off.
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