Pointless Views: The Glue That Holds Us Together
November 22, 2019 by crew
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Regarding superglue, I prefer the runny stuff to the gels. I’ve also found that stuff from the pound shop to be as good as GW/Locktight/etc so usually buy that as you get more for your money and if it does set in the bottle, it’s not such a big loss. I do find superglue somewhat annoying sometimes as if you get a speck on your finger the bit you’re gluing will prefer to stick to said finger over what you were trying to stick it to; which probably isn’t that surprising considering superglue was originally invented to stick wounds closed,… Read more »
Seeing the video… @warzan you *do* realize we (the panellists) can not see it when you wave at the screen, yes? 😉 Seeing it now makes the recording even more fun in hindsight XD
When I downloaded the podcast link it’s saying there is nothing to play. Any ideas
@ludicryan we need a fix please
An interesting episode, with some useful tips. A quick side note Super glue was originally designed for medical use during the Vietnam war, as a quick way to close wounds and stop infection, and it’s still used today in hospitals. Though I believe there is a slight difference in the formula compared to off the shelf glue. That said I’ve used super glue to close cuts at home.
Actually… ? cyanoacrylate wasn’t designed for medical use. The adhesive capabilities were discovered by accident in research for coating for plane cockpits, then it got turned into the super glue product. This was sometime in the 1950s. Medical use came as a later application, including the use in the Vietnam war.
I thought it was discovered by Kodak in the 1940s when they were researching using resins in gun sights – or so some man in the pub told me.
Yeah, the gun sights research were they discovered cyanoacrylates (during WW2), but they only thought of the adhesive use in the 50s.
Morning.. interesting discussion, my go to superglue is the cheapstuff from Poundland DIY pack of 4 for a pound. These come with a capillary tube and that helps to direct the glue and they never dryout. Works really well for me.
Oh and I forgot to mention the favourite method of sticking things together from my wife: double sided tape. You wouldn’t believe where she’s used that stuff on XD
Interesting format there chaps.
From the way the comments were going last week, I had formed in my mind an OTTer version of “BBC Question Time”.
Wasn’t sure who would have been Fiona Bruce though 😉
Has to be Gerry as Fiona Bruce… he has the smoldering intelligent sex appeal.
Had a great time thanks very much guys.
I remember when Liquid Green Stuff came out and everyone around here started using it as glue and it worked fine for a few weeks then everyone’s armies just fell apart on the table.
I normally leave big comments but I guess everything I had to say I said in the show already 🙂
I use 2 part Araldite/Epoxy regularly for my fletching and bonding dis-similar materials , it did agreat job combined with pining on my Ral Partha Red Dragon but was suprised to find it didnt take to Flames of war plastic bases. Quickest plastic glue hands down is a Sellys 2 part with Primer pen and glue tube but it sets super fast so take care. If your glueing with kids best find a runny glue with brush. Tubes are not friendly to kids. @warzan if your serious about the superglue on your table my advice is, dont do anything. Give… Read more »
For two part glues, I’m finishing off a pair of tubes of regular epoxy glue. I’ve seen one guy off YouTube using JB Weld on larger Forgeworld models and not pinning, where he would have pinned it in the past.
* Caveat: here I’m talking about tanks, I’m not suggesting anyone assembles a titan without pins
On unclogging the Revell glue: don’t hold the it under the lighter forever. Just a little warm and look for the little flame at the end of the needle, you’re good to glue and no black flakes. Take it easy!
I’d be interested to hear peoples’ views on the worth of pinning in combination with gluing, when to pin and when not to pin, how many pins, when to apply the glue, how effective the pins are if the glue degrades, reapplying glue to a pinned joint, and so on.
It serves a few purposes: – increases the contact area for small posts (hands, arms on human sized minis) – stops movement when knocked. I expoxy glued the base of a ruined temple to some EPVC and it all fell off when I dropped it. I wondered why that hadn’t happened with the previous one. Answer was I’d pinned it. – gives a good bond without tons of glue (in particular I’m thinking of sticking subassemblies to a model after painting when it’s harder to clean up a gluey mess) Generally I’d not bother with a pin with plastic cement,… Read more »
I love Gorilla Glue.Unlike @lloyd i’ve never had any issues using it on my SW Legion and my Skelly Horde for AoM.
Yeah, that’s cool.
Just seems to be a bit hit and miss.
How’s it been for you on metal? @kantor72
@lloyd It’s been good to me on the few metal mini’s i have across my games,it’s next test comes in the form of the Basilean Dragon Rider,hopefully i won’t glue my fingers together.Back in my Warmahorde days ( before GG ) i used pins and Zap-a-gap super glue and activator.
hmmmmm listening to people talk about glue drying…..hmmmmmm
So is it as good as painting tutorials, where we get to watch paint dry? 🙂
I use superglue for metal and resin and plastic cement for HIPS. I generally don’t use epoxy for anything other than very marge models because of the curing times; imagine trying to keep two components of an Infinity miniature in place for 10 minutes whilst the glue cures. No chance. I have found that you can buy a set in screwfix that has a bottle of superglue and an activator for a fiver or a multipack for £13 and this, combined with pinning, is how I assemble miniatures. To hark back to the Metal Miniatures are Superior episode and some… Read more »
just use whatever justin was using on his yellow blanket! that thing looked as stiff as a rock!
I think this episode of Pointless Views was rather on point… ?
A thicker superglue and cocktail stick or toothpick work really well for me.
I got a pot of the gorilla glue 6 months back an it’s setting in the bottle it’s a thick gel now may be a bad batch but be warned
My go to is prety much thick superglue gel and a bottle of cheap gut rot vodka (iso is a nightmare to find in finland) with baking soda mixed in to it as an activator. I have it mixed into a little travel aftershave sprayer which is refillable. Does the job great.
The pound shop glue is good. epoxy glue reacts with the parts like ordinary plastic glue on model’s forming a stronger bond.
sounds like car repair cataloy you used Gerry.
It was. But that thunder hawk was never coming apart
I mostly go for the higher viscosity CA glue, not quite the gel but the ones that don’t run. The thinner stuff is useful for some things.
There are also these super thin cyanoacrylates, I once bought a bottle. I expected to use it with capillary action to strengthen joints, but nope, it just goes f-ing everywhere. I see no use for them in general modeling work.
And I too YOLO with the Revell plastic cement and a lighter. ???
Superglue works in the absence of air, hence your bottle is half full, remember to keep air in it.
My pro tip discovered this week, always keep trousers on while using superglue…
I use Gorilla Super Glue, it is the gel version and seems to hold everything including my fingers to the work bench. 🙂
This is the stateside version so not sure if there is a difference.
Loved the format for this week.
Vids by a hobbyist who also happens to be a chemical engineer… well worth a watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hY1jyGNzIo&list=PLMxY5TTsl9RldJ2XauQCGlb7Fqdgf07Mj&index=3&t=0s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnyNbkoc72k&list=PLMxY5TTsl9RldJ2XauQCGlb7Fqdgf07Mj&index=2&t=0s
@warzan I had just gotten home from work and saw the instruction on going into ‘show-panel’ on CogitoLudos and did that, all excited about being on the show and then the wife said it was time to medicate the cat. o_0 That particular flirtation with mortality requires the both of us and when it was over (no bleeding this time) I thought I had missed out on being on the show. 🙁 I was afk when you mentioned me so I didn’t realize I could have chimed in while I was listening. 😀 😀 Another moment when I missed out… Read more »