Tools Of The Trade: Citadel Tools Review!
May 7, 2014 by crew
A short while ago Games Workshop released their latest version of the Citadel Tools that let’s be honest, many of us probably started out with or have owned at some point in time. With the latest release looming I was already having to replace my craft knife that was a cheaper non-branded one that I had been using for a little while and also my clippers had seen better days so it had come at the right time for me to consider giving the new kit a go.
So to start this off let’s look at the new packaging. For me this has been a much needed overhaul and from the looks of it, it appears as it Games Workshop are trying to set the stall out early suggesting that this is a quality product. The packaging is very smart and is a nice compact little box for the full set. From what I understand the full set may have been a limited release though the individual components that I will be reviewing are all in uniformed packaging. That being said the packaging doesn’t make the product but on seeing this set on a shelf I must admit it catches the eye.
On presentation alone I would score this a 5/5. The Citadel range needed a major update from a packaging point of view and mission accomplished with this.
The case that comes with the kit is nicely presented, as you can see here I have utilized some of the pockets to include some sealed bags which just include some Green Stuff and my spare blades for the knife. I have also added in my old files and still have plenty of room after including drill bits. The bag is quite basic but is nicely done as you would expect any kind of tool pouch. It rolls up and fastens securely keeping your tools together. For me the benefit of this is that I can throw it in to my backpack if I am going to be doing any work in local stores or if I am going away anywhere. That’s much better than having to lug my large tool box all over the place.
I cannot really find anything to fault the pouch on though I am yet to slot my glues in however I can’t see me having a problem fitting those in and if I cleared my old files I could easily include a few brushes to really give me a transportable Hobby pack. I’d score this 4/5 as I don’t think that the pouch can be purchased separately at this moment in time.
Next up we have the Mould Line Remover. I’ll be honest the only difference here is that with the product being metal it has a bit more weight to it. Personally I like that as I prefer tools to feel a bit more solid and weighted in my hand. There isn’t anything wrong with this tool though other than adding weight it hasn’t really changed. They have updated it so that it matches the new set but realistically it’s the same as it always has been. I’m going to score this 3/5 not because it doesn’t do its job (as it does) but because it just does as it always has, no shiny bells or whistles and not that it needs it. Change for the sake of change rather than a necessary adjustment on this one. A worthy tool but doesn’t offer anything different to those already owned or available elsewhere.
Let’s have a look at the new Citadel Drill. Honestly it is very similar to how it has always been, a touch heavier now but the real change is the fact that it strips down and can hold two different sizes of drill bit now. This for me is a great little option giving a choice that I didn’t have before using the old Citadel product. It doesn’t seem much but it will make different gun barrels a lot easier and makes pinning a little firmer as you can use thicker wire on those larger models. The only drawback with it is that changing over your drill bit at first is quite stiff. I imagine this will get easier the more it’s done but at first it was a bit of a battle of wills to get the smaller sized drill bits in to the drill firmly. Once they are in though they are nice and secure.
I’d give this one 4/5. It looks nice, feels good and offers a bit more than previously offered. It feels a better quality to the hand and is a nod to those who use them regularly with the variation in drill bit.
So now we get to the Craft Knife, think scaled down Stanley Knife with this one. If I am honest I am over the moon with this. The retractable blade and the ability to change over the blades when needed is a fantastic thing. My old knives were just cheap non-branded products and I’m not afraid to admit that some of the Forge World resin kits destroyed a blade and two lots of the section that held the blades to the knife so for me going to a quality product like this is great. The blades are very sharp and you get 5 new blades with the knife though there is no reason this can’t be re-sharpened to increase how long they will last. The draw back here though is that this can’t be ordered online. Whilst this is frustrating it is somewhat understandable with the rules and regulations in place.
One nice feature of the knife is that it is weighted to the bottom end so if you drop it or knock it off the side you aren’t going to damage the blade, your floor and most importantly yourself! It’s nice to see that this is considered as let’s face it we have all dropped tools before and cringed when you react to try and catch it with your hand or foot. I’m happy to give this one 5/5 as it offers more than the old one from a safety point of view and the blades being relatively easy to change over is great. The only thing to note is that you may need a pair of pliers when clipping the blades in as you don’t want to be clipping a blade in to place with just your fingertips as you’re asking for trouble.
Finally we have the new Clippers. These are a fantastic bit of kit and the spring mechanism feels much better on these and is inside the joint. With more weight and a pinpoint tip it makes clipping those hard to reach pieces much easier which when working with resin and its kin can be frustrating at the best of times. The blades are designed to shear the plastic now meaning that we fire less projectile plastic at friends and family who are unfortunate to be sitting in the close proximity. These feel great to use and should stand the test of time. 5/5 on these as the old ones were not bad but these have taken steps to reduce the scarring on models, increasing precision and try to stop us having to get the hoover out after we have put together a plastic kit. Another 5/5.
Overall, what do I think? I think they are very good for what they do though they are more expensive, but the quality is there. Don’t get me wrong and they certainly seem to be being marketed as a top quality product though there are plenty of options out there on the market if you know what you are after. I’d give the set 4/5 looking at the overall set. They are very good and to a higher quality than their predecessors. Are they worth the price tag that they have attached? I think that’s down to each individual. For me working with a lot of Forge World models lately I am glad to have something a bit more solid in my hands to work with and don’t mind parting with the coins. For those with a tighter budget it’s worth exploring your options taking in to account the materials you are working with.
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And here is why you shouldn’t buy this kit!
http://tomschadleminiatures.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/games-workshop-has-recently-advertised.html
You could probably buy them cheaper than that as well
Yep. You can get everything in that kit as good if not better for a fraction of the price. I’d never tell anyone how they should spend their money, but at least go into it with your eyes open.
@willy2fly cheers for sharing that blog post! Great stuff.
Really wanted Romain to review these Tools 🙁
I just picked up a set of the files, thanks for the tip!
On the whole I roughly agree – but those clippers really are fantastic. Breeze through the plastic like butter and such a smooth action, feel like a long lasting tool.
The problem I have with buying expensive clippers is that cutting plastic with them is the easiest and quickest way of blunting them, if you just cutting off sprues then buying several cheaper pairs is probably the way to go
I was able to try the new clippers and I hated them, my skin kept getting pinched in the metal. I much prefer the old rubber grip GW clippers. They do the exact same thing for less. I know some people like the heavy weight of the new metal versions but I would rather have lighter and rubber grips for better control. The thing that really sucks is that retailers are forced to bring it in even if they don’t want to.
Lovely looking kit, but cheaper equivalent (if not better) alternative’s are available. Basically like doing your food shopping in Marks and Spencer/Waitrose or Morrison’s/Aldi. All the same, still comes out your ass after you eat it, just different prices. If you have money to burn and you love your labels, then why the hell not.
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
If you have the disposable income that allows you to get this set then go for it.
I certainly wouldn’t question a Ferrari driver about his purchase even though his car does the same job as a Skoda 😉
Neither would I. Though you’re implying that GW’s tools are superior to other tools which are cheaper, which isn’t the case. Most are on a level, some are actually inferior. My diamond files were a lot cheaper than the GW files yet they’re better and last longer.
No I’m not, my first sentence clearly states “equivalent (if not better) alternative’s”
I was replying to the statement about Ferraris and Skodas 🙂
Skoda’s are probably better at staying together than Ferrari’s these days…
dont buy these, look here for more information :
http://tomschadleminiatures.blogspot.fr/2014/04/games-workshop-has-recently-advertised.html?showComment=1398201346370#c3907977195473647213
This negativity is hurting the hobby .. it is a limited run of tools crafted by real dwarves, show some gratitude.
Shouldn’t they drop their prices?
They have all that Gold under the lonely mountain to count.
Paying $150 for these tools is absurd! Save yourself $100 (which you can then spend on miniatures and models which is the actual fun part right?) by reading this and making informed choices http://www.holycrapitslate.com/save-100-hobby-tools-draft/
A fool and his $150 are soon parted. Canadian prices – Princess Auto: Wire cutters, $2.99, 8 needle files, $3.99. Dollarama: Exacto handle and five blades $1.00 (removes mould lines. True story), identical Stanley knife, $1.00. Zippered carrying case: $1.00. Titan Super Glue, 4 small tubes, $1.00. Antenocitis: Milliput vice Green Stuff $2.99. Dental supply store: Sculpting tools, $8.99. Citadel: hand drill, $8.99 (when I bought it I didn’t know better). Drill bits at Princess Auto, $1.29 for 12. Total: $32.24. If glue and Green Stuff aren’t included in that kit, then you can knock $3.99 off my total: $28.25.… Read more »
As @willy2fly pointed out, you can buy a lot more tools at top quality for whole lot less. I had a look at Axminster.co.uk and other shops, and found that, in total, you could spend about £40-£50 for all those tools, with loads more files and sculpting tools included in that price too. The old GW pin vice drill DOES have a changeable collet, allowing you to have various sizes of drill bit. Just unscrew it and you’ll see it was there all along. GW tools are heavily marked up because they’re selling their brand. Don’t be daft and buy… Read more »
First off fair play to you Chris for writing the article on these tools which seem to have been received by the general hobbyist community even less favourably than a ‘wee jobbie’ in the local swimming pool! Balls of steel! As for the tools I think I agree with others that if you want tools that are branded, look nice and come in a lovely package then that’s cool. Most might not want to pay that but it’s a personal choice. We all spend more than we need to sometimes on frivolous things. I’m sure they work ok but I… Read more »
Just realised how many times I used the word ‘tools’ in that post. Lol!
Freudian slip perhaps 😉
I think most of us, who have been in the hobby a while, know what tools they need and where to get them. What sickens me is the thought of newcomers, mostly youngster and their parents, at a Games Workshop outlet asking the staff what tools will they need to put those shiny kits together and getting ripped off with this.
Would just like to say that as Chris points out at the end of the article – if you don’t have the budget for these then there are plenty of other tools out there (even a lot within the same price range) – and he does say to consider the materials you work with and what you like the feel of. What he was doing however was looking at the tools he decided to pick up for his hobby. Just hope people aren’t seeing this as him trying to push these tools as the only option – certainly glad to… Read more »
It’s not really about budget though, its about common sense.
We are not talking about comparing a Ferrari with a Skoda here, we are talking about comparing a Skoda with another Skoda that has a GW badge on it and is 3times more expensive.
I am fully aware of that – but sometimes people want to buy something regardless of whether or not there is a better choice. People buy Call of Duty even though there are plenty of better first person shooters out there that are cheaper or make more sense. If someone genuinely wants the Games Workshop stuff then that’s their prerogative. As I said, this is why I’m glad some people have posted alternative links to different reviews so that viewpoints are out there. It just so happens that in this case Chris picked up these and decided that they were… Read more »
People buy COD for the online play, and with online you want the game everyone else is playing whether it’s any good or not.
Hmmm… does that remind you of something else?
It does. I think these tools more represent the power of strong branding and consumer brand association.
Not *entirely* sure that is true. CoD online play is excellent given the limited alternatives on a console. It’s inferior to PC gaming, but PC is a different ball game to a fixed console. These GW tools are not premium products at all other than a bit of nicer packaging. There are cheaper, superior products on offer. it’s entirely misleading to suggest people spend the cash on them *if* they have it. That’s like saying to someone “yes, I know you can get Call of Duty 12 for £30 from Tesco, but you should buy it for £40 from Play… Read more »
@poosh quote – These GW tools are not premium products at all other than a bit of nicer packaging. There are cheaper, superior products on offer. it’s entirely misleading to suggest people spend the cash on them *if* they have it. That’s like saying to someone “yes, I know you can get Call of Duty 12 for £30 from Tesco, but you should buy it for £40 from Play if you can afford it”.
Exactly this!
I’ll agree that it’s easy to find decent tools at a much cheaper price, but really based on all the reviews I have seen those clippers look amazing and well beyond most other brands. If any of you have tried the GW ones and know of another pair that are as good or better than I would love to know.
While I really enjoy the new packaging, look of the tools and the addition of the pouch I feel it’s way over priced. I believe it’s $150 US. These individual tools can be bought at a hobby shop for less or online for an even large price cut. I understand that GW is the name brand you are paying the extra for. What I hope is the tools are superior to anything else I can buy and with that said could we get a video review comparing the tools to the old ones and maybe similar tools at a cheaper… Read more »
It’s kinda dumb to pay any money for tools which are not any better and considerably more expensive than competitors.
Unless you feel there is some sort of prestige with owning GW branded tools, which frankly I find bemusing.
When I say dumb I am not targeting anyone, and I would apply the same logic to ANY purchase.
Careful. Someone might accuse you of being a dumbophobe, or rather, of posting a dumbophobic comment. You could end up at the stormy center of a non-issue 😉
An honest review but personaly I would find it hard to justify the price tag, I own better tools than this and didn’t pay nearly as much.
Shop around, better quality for less money is available.
I think it would be great to get an alternate article out for those wanting to get started with their equipment on a budget giving thoughts on the alternatives out there it would be really helpful. I will be honest the GW ones are extremely pricey for what they are, don’t get me wrong they are an improvement on the old range but it really does depend what your going for. That being said there are plenty of cheaper and more expensive alternatives for pretty much everything that GW do. For me a lot of it was the ease of… Read more »
I went into GW at the weekend with my daughter to get some clippers so she could get components out of sprues a bit more easily. Wouldn’t normally go to GW for this sort of thing as they were expensive even when I was a nipper, but I thought a couple of extra quid to have them there and then was probably worth it. Asked an overly enthusiastic member of staff how much for clippers, my reaction to the £18 price tag was probably a bit on the rude side I’m sorry to say. I felt embarrassed and like a… Read more »
There are people in this world who would pay good money for the names and addresses of those who bought this product.
care to elaborate on such a statement?
There is an underground trade for the names and contact details of easy marks
and the “people” who actually buy one click-selections….
… that being said, with the new GW site, one click-selections are actually easier than navigating through that horrific abortion of a website. … it was all part of a master plan
I bought one of the knives from a seller on eBay. It’s actually quite nice, though it is just a GW-ized version of a Swann Morton Retractaway Scalpel Handel. I do like the Citadel knife more than the Retractaway. However, the cost difference is at least double, even after paying international shipping on the Retractaway. The Citadel Knife comes with 5 standard Swann Morton 10A scalpel blades. So, no proprietary GW blades needed. One more thing I would like to say is that the idea of the handle design causing the knife to fall blade side up is wishful thinking.… Read more »
Thanks for the review, while I’m more likely to buy a more budget conscious set of tools, it’s always great to see someone’s thoughts on a variety of products.
I wonder how the sales of this kit are going in Australia, it is incredibly common (at least around Melbourne) to hear people constantly going to their local hardware super store (Bunnings). I can tell you that you can pick up better quality tools for less there.
I bought some really nice ones in Mitre 10 a few years back, Bunnings probably stocked the same item but wasn’t as close
I’ve seen the tools first hand myself now, and I largely agree with him that they are nice – aside from the pin vice, which for me was not as comfortable as the old rubbery one, nor my all metal one from Tamiya that also manages to feel a higher quality (and also has changeable chucks and so on).
For someone who has to have the GW brand on everything regardless of cost they are an overall improvement on the last offering, but for me they are simply far too expensive compared to what else is out there.