VLOG: Huge 40k Campaign & Content Review
December 18, 2018 by crew
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At least @warzan didn’t start with “I have a cunning plan” XD
“Getting in touch”. Maybe specify how. Private message here? Email? Run around the store screaming “pick me”? Carrier pigeon? V2? Or maybe a form with something like “I volunteer for” and then check-boxes?
I’d say leave a comment here stating your interest and we’ll get back to you. There may be more details at some point soon.
Please, do not send pigeons as I keep eating them. They’re very crunchy.
African swallow then? With coconuts? (Leaving comment here stating interest etc)
Aw now you’re sending them with flavouring!
Albatross Flavour, but does need wafers!
But is the bird dead or just resting?
Typical hobbitsies.
Got a group of very experienced players at my home club, (including Kevin) with quite a lot of rules experience including writing, I’m sure will be happy to have a look at converting it to two player , though we have more experience the other way round converting 2 player to 4+ games.
Who is Kevin?
That’s ‘THE KEVIN!’
chap who still owes me a date 😉
I’ll remind him! should be worth seeing the look on his face!
And I still have no idea who your talking about
he’s a fruit bat and loves fruit pastilles
I thought that was Eric the fruit bat.
Yes, all my pets are called Eric.
that’s old age son, it causes the memory to go. 😉
Sorry, I got the wrong thread – I was looking for the Monty Python reference thread.
no you weren’t
Eric was half a Bee
More like a Klingon
Happy Christmas to you and your team, please remember that Christmas is not the time to eat the KIDS, rather it is the time to fatten them up.
Megagames were the reason I had so much fun playing 40k when I was a kid. Got to just turn up to GW, they stuck you with one side or the other and just let you have a bunch of fun playing with your little bit of a larger force.
Had so many cool moments with my very heavily painted Black Templars.
The big diorama/showcase is also very cool – it’s why I like going back to Warhammer World when they change up the museum 🙂
Something that would also be a good idea is making a simple “getting started with miniatures” pamphlet where you can just provide simple basic information like clippers, glue, primers etc. Make sure you give this along with children, parents and others that are new to the hobby. Also make it easy for them to see and find that pamphlet in your visitors centre.
I so wish I was local and could come over and join the campaign. ? Would be awesome to see some of it at least.
That leaflet could also contain a prominent link to a page on the site with a series of hobby videos aimed at new starters.
But also, the leaflet says that there’s a link to the site so that people (kids / parents, etc.) can find out more in an easily accessible way.
Or one of those QR code thingies. Starting to understand this modern technology thing now
please send in your suggestions on a postcard or the back of a stuck down envelope
Do we need to include milk bottle tops?
yes we’re keeping tabs on the totaliser
I’m looking forward to the next vlog where they make the advent decoration with wire coat hangers and tinsel
Given I work 12 to 14hrs on a normal work day not including the commute, I have limited time to help. However, as far as beginners, I wanted to state. How about a Beginners section or Hobby Tips section. A long time ago when the hobby was younger Tamiya, Testors, Vallejo and others had free hobby guide brochures. I believe an online version would be very helpful. This consisted of a how to get started with tools section. A 20 tips section and where to go next section. It seems like an online version would easy to do. The Tools… Read more »
This might sound a bit counter-intuitive, but there’s also no need to reinvent the wheel. I’m sure GW have some very good painting videos with Duncan Rhodes that you could link to as well. You don’t have to create all the content yourselves if there are gaps that are filled perfectly well by other people.
12-14 hours seems a bit serious
Who are Cut Games? The blokes on the front of the Vigilus book?
Cult of Games is the name for our club here at BoW/OTT
Ooooh! I never thought I’d hear myself say this, “I want to join a/the cult!”
But I guess there’s no fear of that, Kansas is a bit far for once a week travel for game night!
You just carry on my wayward son.
Just hope on a whirlwind, Coleraine ,Oz samething!
I’m still getting over the kid with scissors bit, but wonder it thats if his mum has banned him from sharp Knives.Though still shudder at trying to remove stuff from sprues with the veggie knife when a kid.
It is a thought above though about what are modern kid allowed to use?
Not to mention polystyrene Glue…..remember Adrian Mole.
Though for many of older guys here, their 1st introduction to minis where metal knives are a must.
“I have little kiddies who come first”
But what about all us big kiddies? *sniff* ?
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lol
You should start the kids off with obtaining and maintaining good hobby practices by only letting them have metal figures ?
definately somthing on metal is a must
That all sounds so awesome, I do wish I was closer as I’d definitely get over to you. I’m so impeessed with everything you’ve been doing recently,keep up the good work!! 😀
On the subject of finding stuff. I have been a backstage r for a while and I tried to find the hobby vid you did with Lloyd making hedges from coconut mats. I could not find it so went to utube where I did. Is this the kind of thing you were on about. I knew what I wanted but no matter how I searched I could not find it on OTT.
yep that’s a definate symptom of the issue!
Ok to be sort of serious fora second but do you think that parents would want their kids visting the main OTT with all the slightly bad language and jokes and innuendo etc that’s included in a lot of the content Maybe a junior OTT website that has basic hobby videos and how to play videos? Would it be an idea to write a simplified version of Kill Team (which the kids could keep) or Age of Sigmar that would have a low model count and give the children the sense of achievement of completing an army. It would also… Read more »
I’m talking about kids in their mid to late teens. 🙂
Ah ok. Thought you were thinking of younger than that
nah I’m just getting really old lol
Aside from what we catch in the edit, there is far worse even on television than what the guys spout on a weekly basis.
Another question
Have all the staff members got their Access NI checks done as you will probably need them if children are in the centre
working on what’s needed there
Buggered up a lot of participation games at shows at one point, kid not allowed unless accompanied by responsible adult!
Where the hell are you going to find one of those at a game show.
Means the Tea lady is going to be very bust playing games and no tea!
Looking like its going to be a great event!! I’m really gutted not to be able to get to it thanks to work…. Same as the exhibition, would have loved to make that too, but again working early on Saturday so not sure I could get up in time!!
@warzan I dont mind helping any of the youngsters when I’m up at the club with anything they need! Will most likely be up most Saturdays 🙂
the friday exhibition runs from 10-10 so you could pop down if you have the time.
Thank you, I’ll assess the train times back home in the evening! Have to leave home at 5.30am on Saturday morning for work boooooooooo!
leave at a quarter past the hour every hour and take 90mins ish to reach Belfast
This is so right…. it took me fecking ages to find out what zenithal priming is….kept hearing people mention it but nobody seemed to do an idiots guide on it that i could find until sorastro did it in a star wars tutorial.
Great idea for beginners. The flames of war and games workshop have excellent guides on how to get started. I still use my citadel paint and terrain guides.
Warlord guides are also good starting points.
Willing to help to make the site better. Let me k ow how I can assist
The four stages of competence :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_stages_of_competence
Having some kind of ‘skill level’ indicator for tutorials will help a lot as you can then start the hunt for more info. I think Revell do something like that for their plastic kits (the ‘easy build’ vs expert level).
Part of the problem (in any hobby to be honest) is that there is often too much entry level and too much ‘expert’ level content with practically nothing in between. As a result the ones that sort of know what they’re doing don’t get the help to achieve ‘expert’ level competence.
With regards to the content I do agree with you @warzan it is hard to find at times, for a video. But what I am thinking of is how about:
Beginners guide How to make a space marine
Beginners guide How to paint your space marine
Beginners guide How to base you space marine
Beginners guide to How to Air Brush.
These video could tie in to the welcome centre you have now.
These would be headed for 12 to 15 year olds but I feel they would appeal to an older audience as well
How about if you have two games nights similar to Games Workshop. One for Advanced gamers, you could run a campaign on that night to start with. And beginners games night as well, with a tailored campaign. I worked for games workshop between 1995 and 1997 same principles still apply today. When I was a staff member at GW I managed the shop for 6 months with part time people as well. On our Sunday beginners games we hand a hand full of beginners in the shop. I thought this was not enough, so out of my own time I… Read more »
the problem with that is there is a limited time for openings unlike GW. If you take away a third of the time it isolates a lot of people who can maybe only attend that day.
Having things like this on during the week would probably make a lot of people think if it was worth making the trip. I think you would get more people on Saturdays.
but then where do the gamers go who know how to play if you’re taking the only full open day off them to teach new starts?
Just seems a strange day for it. But the schools are off so I guess the day doesn’t matter
there are only 3 days the gaming area is open, taking away one of those days, weekend or weekday severely impacts regardless of when it is. That’s why I would be against having a dedicated day for beginners
I think I got confused on days etc. I was trying in an inept way that the exhibition would be better on a Saturday as you would likely get more people showing up during the day rather than after work etc
I would agree with not having dedicated beginners day
ah right, I was replying to @hawker2000‘s suggestion about beginner days, while great in theory there are only a limited amount of hours available.
@warzan I think it is great that potential changes here will help those new to the hobby rather than us old timers (can I call myself an old timer now?). I am helping out at my son’s school as they have started up 40K Club on a Wednesday’s that also once a month goes to the local GW store, I have no problem donating kill teams and terrain, dice, brushes etc because the easier the route into the hobby for the kids the more likely the gaming community grows in the future… I am sure at some point my boys… Read more »
I’d be happy to take a look at converting Vigilus Laid Waste to two players. I was one of those kids. My biggest issue was money and if it wasn’t for the local GW having things like clippers and glue free to use in store (within reason) was incredibly useful. One or two plastic glue’s and some clippers at a small table could really make a big difference. A rattle can every so often just to get a squad undercoated for them (can be done in batches so as not to waste paint) can be priceless to a youngster. The… Read more »
Interesting to see the visitor centre kicking off in a big way, the first issue of the recent 40k conquest magazine had a good guide on clipping miniatures off sprues and painting them to 3 colours.
The campaign sounds very well thought out, is there any thought to maybe putting some kill team missions in, maybe with more players?
Vigilus Laid Waste? So the story details the cleaning up the trash after the BoW Christmas Party? Proper Waste Management is key to a campaign.
we considered recycling but found it made more sense to bulldoze everything into the river
Your going to run out of river, or it will end up like the River Ankh in Disc world, old bits of terrain will take days to sink into the ooze or just slowly dissolve.