May 29, 2018 by dignity
Warren checks in with the team who are busy making the final preparations before heading off to UKGE later today.
Many of you have shared your thoughts and feedback about the new OnTableTop platform we're launching so Warren takes a few minutes to address some of them and assuage your concerns.
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Great explanation, clears up so many questions
Pretty much everything I thought you were gonna say.
Also for comparison. DDR’s original logo.
http://darkerdays2.podbean.com/mf/web/3e7gfv/newddlogo1.jpg
It sucks on mobile etc compared to our new one.
That doesn’t look like the Dance Dance Revolution logo at all. 😉 😛
Just want to give my two cents on stuff. I am very happy that we’re moving in this direction (of course you’d say that Ben, you work here…) as it reflects pretty much my gaming experience right now. I started off as a wargamer front and centre, painting models and playing out wargames in 40K and Warhammer. Now, I am a board gamer, card gamer, role-player…and a wargamer. OnTableTop offers the chance for people who fit into ALL of those communities to find a home here. Remember…Beasts Of War is not going anywhere. We are still Beasties. I am still… Read more »
I like the idea of having a “separate” platform to bring the wider gaming community together. I especially love the idea of giving a safe space for some communities within the industry to gain more visibility and help them grow without a lot of the Ball ache of dealing with setting up and administering a website and a forum etc.
Thanks for answering the questions. Personally I’m still getting used to the rebranding of Opal Fruits so On Tabletop may take a while for me to come to terms with but I appreciate more now of what your trying achieve So onwards and upwards and Good Luck
Next thing you know they’ll be renaming Marathons!
Surely such a thing isn’t possible
Excellent explanation. It is pretty much what I was thinking. Over all I think this is a good direction to go. It will be nice if a number of other creators have a place within OTT. While I can find most of what they are doing on Youtube or else where, I like the idea that I can come to one place and be able to see all the content that they are putting out. I’m sure there are plenty of issues and worries with this but I’d like to think in the long run we will all come out… Read more »
Yes indeed, we have a lot of things to work out as we go 🙂
Hmmm… maybe OTT can ‘BE’ the new Youtube platform for future tabletop gamers? Ya never know.
I really like the direction that the OTT ship is sailing in. I wish you all fair winds and following seas.
@warzan I think you are on to the right track, and let face it not every game is a Wargame 99.9% are OnTableTop
That is a lovely play on the OnTableTop word @rasmus – and exactly one of the things that drew us to it mate. Really nice! – We may even steal that phrase mate 🙂 lol
I think I get it…
You want to provide an alternative to the platforms that are out there and more content.
The reason OTT has no content yet is because you don’t want it to be all BoW, and to get other folk onboard you’d have to tell ’em the name etc which has a bunch of problems if you want it kept secret, ergo no need to keep it quiet.
If that’s the idea, I like it.
If it all goes wrong, there’s always money in the Banana stand…
I don’t think they can grows banana’s in Ireland? XD
I’ve been to Ireland, there’s palm trees everywhere so surly there’s Bananas too.
In the strategic long-term, I thing the OTT addition is a good move. 1) “Beasts” and “War” are not words that many people outside of our community often understand or react well to when they are first presented. I can’t tell you how many times, when people ask about the work I contribute here and I tell them where it is … I get strange, sidelong looks, often just from the name. 2) I understand that many people feel the new brand is “corporate” – but having worked in corporate communications at a tech company, I completely understand and support… Read more »
Agreed mate and a lot of work will do into ensuring communities within the community can feel properly immersed in the stuff they love.
Historical gaming is a huge priority for me and my sincere hope is that via OTT we can encourage more and more folk to dip their toes in.
And hex and counters and other formats have to be part of that future too.
I am liking the idea of taking historical gaming OTT ?
Pretty much sums up my thoughts entirely 🙂 I am very much in favor of the step up from channel to broadcaster the OTT brand allows. For me OTT is a logical evolution, with OTT being like a viacom or discovery network entity, each with multiple distinct channels, of which BoW will be just one… Also leads to many interesting possibilities for the top level content of OTT, which could aggregate the news of its channels, highlight the most popular videos or content on its channels, and also promemtly display live streams to a more diverse audience, hell could even… Read more »
BoW are going to need to hire more people than, Justin can only play so many games a week. lol
People don’t like change. It tends to freak us out a little. That being said I think part of the reactions your getting are from that “freaking out” plus you all have built something that folks love and care about and they don’t want to lose that. I think you guys should be pretty proud that folks don’t want change because they feel Beasts of War is going away. It means you’ve done very well. Once OTT gets up and going and Beasts of War continues on those fears and freaking out will be a thing of the past. Myself,… Read more »
You should have called it Consignia… it worked so well for the post office. Cost millions a few years ago and lasted months before they changed it back again. Haven’t missed a UK Games Expo for eight years and hoping to go this year, but family health could be an issue and that has to come first. Only been a viewer of BoW for about a year, so no idea what it looked like 10 years ago, but I suspect it was rough around the edges. When you are at Gen Con… try to get Wil Wheaton or Felicia Day… Read more »
Why not consider a MydiceHateMe channel here at some point 😉
Because I believe there are millions of gamers out there whose dice also hate them (I game with three of them) and the channel would crash BoW if not the entire internet with responses… and that’s just doing Cyberdyne’s job for them.
lol
Interestingly there is a gaming youtube channel called DiceHate. Their logo is really clever. Unfortunately, apparently the word “hate” falls foul of of youtube’s algorithms which prevents their videos being recommended to people. I think they’ve accepted their lot as a small channel!
Yes I suspect we have been falling foul of that as well for a while
It’s sad how words have been usurped by social media and made into bad things.
Hate never used to be so negative… it was just dislike… I hate sprouts, but it shouldn’t mean i get reported to social media police…
Even trolls have been made into a bad thing… they used to be much nicer…
From I started watching BoW a year and a half ago I thought I recognised you somehow, have never put my finger on it, but I’ve also worked in media in NI for the last 20 years (a rare enough thing lol) so it’s quite possible we crossed paths along the way at some point, so maybe I can stop wondering about that lol. Anyway, I’ve been working over the last lot of months (almost a year now that I think about it) on the format for a new tabletop show and possible podcast, what does OTT mean for someone… Read more »
Yes we’d be very interested in you coming in to meet up and chat about this 🙂
Great stuff, I’ll take you up on that 🙂
I don’t see this as anything much different to what BoW have been doing recently anyway, just making it official. We have seen more board game, card game and RPG content on BoW recently and this is no bad thing. I think the days of being exclusively a mini gamer are over and the lines have been blurred between what is a board and mini game. I’m certainly looking forward to discovering new games and products that OTT will inevitably introduce me to, my wallet isn’t. No problem with the name, as you say “it does what it says on… Read more »
Apologies for being a bit thick, but what is On Table Top? A name change? Is the intent to close Beasts and rebrand or run both in parallel? It’s not my decision, I think you’ve put a lot of work into it I’m just not sure of what you intend to do with it. I’ve lurked on Beasts for about 7 years or so.. I think. You guys were a breath of fresh air from the over excited American channels. Cynical, grumpy, rational, reasoned. I’ll never forget with the release of the Khorne tank thingy Warren saying ‘it’s crap’. He… Read more »
Go here @bubbles15 https://www.beastsofwar.com/featured/introducing-ontabletop/
I love the new direction, I love the name, the logo, the concept… heck, I´m thinking of doing a own small channel “OnTableTop”… Have to work on a concept, name and logo for that ^^
Great job guys!
Great explanation. Though the comment you quoted about “firing the designer” is one of my pet peeves. Someone, or a group of people worked hard on that and they are human beings. I REALLY wish people would remember that. Working in the computer game industry, I see that kinda thing all the time and it really boils my piss.
Anyway. Looking forward to seeing where this all goes!
Yeah it’s not the kind of thing anyone with any experience of the industry would likely say. But I wanted to address as much as I could good bad and ugly 🙂
Your cable management is a nightmare! XD
Great explanation Warzan. Ten years ago 40k (not just GW, 40k alone) pretty much *was* the hobby (although Warmachine and its infamous Page 5 was making inroads), together with all the “metal”, 14-year-old-goths-in-trenchcoats assumed audience. Nowadays, the gaming world is so much more and a platform that seeks to service the current tabletop gaming world in an umbrella capacity needs to be much more inclusive. Keeping BoW as the main brand risked it becoming as outdated as GW’s “red period” seems to us now, even though in the early 90’s red was da shizzle! I have to say I did… Read more »
I had a fair share of thoughts and opnions on A. the redesign B. the OTT platform and I wanted to post some opinions or complains or even concerns and then I thought to myself : The BoW crew has thought much harder and longer on these things than I have, so my 15 seconds weight of thinking isnt worth posting. But yeah, I really was waiting for someone to explain how to use the tools you provide to us and I hope you will take time to enlighten us further I think you should do something similar for none… Read more »
Meh armchair brand designers, always know better… How much time and effort devoted in a brand name and logo is vastly underappreciated, also what the hell with “fire X guy” do people have lost any empathy? would they like to hear that for themselves? Moving on I am vastly surprised you people dismantle workstations and pack cables, I was expecting given you make quite a few on site shows to have an extra set of cabling packed ready for the show and not dismantle existing cabling, leaving the cabling in place for faster easier re-connection. I know professional cabling is… Read more »
Ordered but didn’t arrive on time mate 🙂
Aww sucks they never seem to arrive on time, still next time they will be there, I assume they will be a foundation for a mobile studio that will get independent with time and funding? I like and do not like the backdrop, the light blue seems too subtle on such a huge display, not sure how well it will support as a backdrop or get lost, trial will of course show that, my biggest comment is the OTT is quite smaller than the other elements in the squares making it feel less important. Now a more esoteric question was… Read more »
Still skirting the real question people have on their minds, will there be a return of On The Table? (I know you answered my question on the other post but I wanted to get my dig in 🙂 ) I really think this old show which at one time aired on the Geek and Sundry site and launched a few of us over here to become Beasts was the beginning of what you are attempting with OTT. A quick high paced show with the upcoming stuff from around the industry. Overall I like the idea of OTT, this system has… Read more »
Oh and on a serious note: since YouTube is an ever evolving… “mess” have you thought on using different platforms for your videos? You might want to look into PeerTube. It’s a decentralised Video Platform similar to YouTube but you are in control of your videos. https://joinpeertube.org/en/faq/
Loved this explanation and addressing points. I have been a member of BOW for 10 years (how?) and only posted something last year!! I used to be only into Warhammer 40k and that was my only interest. Back in the day, 40k used to be the only videos I watched on BOW Youtube. I tried the site, fair enough as soon as it was launched and strongly disliked it and the change from the Youtube platform. I couldn’t even figure out how to view anything on the first site. I feared for the end of my 40k videos! As beasts… Read more »
Thinking this is a good thing!
Seems like a solid move that becomes all inclusive.
There is a lot of content on the site as it is that I never touch. But that’s perfectly OK as it does provide the content that I want.
I’m thinking folks will be able to find what they want and OTT allows all comers the initial thought that there is something for everyone.
BLUF: I’M ALL IN!!!!