Weekender XLBS: Metal vs Plastic – We have a new Champ?!
May 14, 2017 by lloyd
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Who is the new bloke in Gerry’s seat?
I think he’s called Warren – he was in Justin’s seat last week! 🙂
11 mins , how freaky is the boat moving , sailing into the sunset???
The planking really looks great!
Happy Sunday / Mothersday in the US
I must say that pirates is just too awesome. would love to try blood and plunder.
I’m with Warren on this. The only reason I paint is that I can’t afford to pay someone to do it for me.
It’s the other way round for me – I mostly paint, but I found that owning pieces e.g. I bought a piece of terrain of ebay that was painted well and it inspired me to do better.
Also not having the time to sit down and get a good number of models painted…
I’m firmly in the multi part plastic corner. One piece figures can be beautifully sculpted but for me personally they are always..dead. Plastics are more fun for me as I can convert or repair them easily. With metals I ALWAYS end up with paint chipping off some bendy part somewhere regardless of how many layers of coating they get 🙁
I can see why a lot of gamers like one piece figures but I enjoy building and painting plastics too much to have any warm feelings for one piece metals..
But..as always: Suum quique!
Couldn’t agree more and don’t get me started on the evils of multipart metals!
Yep one thing even the most pro metal guys admit is that mutli part metals are annoying.
Accelerant has fixed this but it’s still a thing.
The guys from Firelock Games did an epic job making everything 1 piece.
I use automotive self-etching metal primers and have never had paint chip off of a metal figure.
I agree specially that plastic can have amazing details now just like long time ago you could only get on metal.
Blood & Plunder looks amazing.
happy sunday!
I mentioned it yesterday regarding blood & plunder, have a look at Benerson Little, he wrote some fictional and non fictional books regarding the golden age of piracy. I read one of his fictional books and I would read some of his non fictional books in the future to get some inspiration for scenarios, campaigns, etc. Also I think I mentioned it before as well michael crichton’s book Pirate Latitudes would be a great inspiration for blood & plunder and is a great read for anyone who like Pirate stories.
Plastics for me all the way , there be pirates blood and plunder for everyone .
I’d like to paint more, but I get a limited hobby/gaming time and I’ll take playing every time over painting. I don’t enjoy painting and I’m a slow painter to boot. I’ve already long since decided not to buy any terrain I have to paint.
Happy Sunday! Miniatures that don’t require any assembling make the games feel much more accessible, from a personal point of view, I’ve started looking for games where there is little to no assembly required now.
So you pop the one piece minis out. Prep, spray, paint, sit back and then realize that your minis are boring as F**K. They look just like everyone else’s figures. Nothing like repetition to make me ditch a game. Long live multipart metal and resin.
Out of curiosity, how many unbuilt minis do you have in your collection? I bet your not playing with them either 😉
Accessibility definately has an appeal all of its own when time starts to become the major limiting factor.
Which is why for many (perhaps even most) they have more fun with meeples than minis…
the metal vs. plastic discussion was there when I joined the hobby in 1990/1991. The older companies where doing mostly single cast metal miniatures and as far as I can remember GW was one of the first gaming companies to bring plastics into the mix. Back then the ‘old guys’ hated the plastic minis from GW and wouldn’t touch them or look at them. I didnt like plastics at the beginning because they just didnt look as good as metal minis. GW improved them over the years and they became more and more attractive to me. I liked the versatility… Read more »
I’m a moddeler that games so a huge part of my enjoyment is the build, that’s perhaps my only criticism of walking dead all out war is the prebuilt minis, that said I doubt it would have been played as much by me if they weren’t….
I keep my gaming and my model building hobbies as two separate hobbies that just happen to share techniques & tools.
I’m with you in a way here – while I enjoy painting primarily, games get sidelined without ever being played for me – ditched may be the wrong word, but another one comes in and steals my attention. All games get put to the side eventually – however some don’t get played even once as the minis are not ready while you still have the interest.
I’ve still got a whole Tau army sat waiting to be build and painted, but already moved onto collecting up both Tyranid and Genestealer cults…
Same here! Good to hear that Im not alone 🙂
I have a whole Tau army I need to build and paint but have already started collection both a Tyraid and Genestealer cult army, the problem is I have no time to paint but love the designs.
I don’t even want to talk about the amount of unpainted/unplayed with figures I have.
Blimey!
Son of a sea Biscuit!,
There goes my pieces of eight.
Blood and Thunder WOW
Pretty excited to check this out. I am very interested in how the ships work at this scale
I have to say that I am really tempted by Blood & Plunder, looking forward to the let’s plays.
Regarding vikings; we have a viking festival coming up in just under a month. Hordes of roving vikings, longships, longhouses, viking food, artisans – the lot.
Avaldsnes was the location of Harald Hairfair’s royal court, so it’s smack dab in viking country.
http://opplevavaldsnes.no/vikingfestivalen/
Leave it to @warzan to come up with “History in the gaps”…
Happy Sunday!
What size are those B&P bases? I can see the edges of those being prone to chipping and wondered whether they could be stuck onto a plastic base that will also provide stability on rough terrain.
Also – we’ve all been there with minis with fragile glue points to the base. Sorts that too.
Bases are 20mm ish bases and it’s all 1 piece. I bought about 150-200 minis from the kickstarter and 2 needed glue. I found the stability and issue but a little circle of felt soon fixed it. Things being in units make the game more forgiving than a skirmish game since you can have 1 or 2 minis out of place if you have to. I varnished the **** out of my edges and found they’re both chip free and look great since I painted them gold. The game could be adapted easily for other bases though your only issue… Read more »
This game does look interesting. I might look into it at some point.
Happy Sunday! Metal v Plastic, I must admit that I detest plastic miniatures, having come from a modelling background making and painting Airfix kits you might think that I would be happy with them, but I gave up with plastic all those years ago because I got bored with having to spend hours putting things together before I could paint them. Metal got me on to what I loved doing far quicker with much less preparation. I find it also holds much more detail, is much easier to paint and is far more resilient to damage than plastic. After playing… Read more »
I think my own experiences are something similar. I have tried plastics but I really do hate having to build them. Took what little joy I get out of painting and hid it
Happy Sunday!
Plastics over metal all the way…
I returned to the hobby a few years ago and went through the same thoughts as Warren describes back in the day the metal minis were the high quality ones whereas the plastic minis were there to bulk out your force a bit. It’s taken a while to move over to the plastics as first choice – snobbery was certainly a factor for me, but I think it’s the fact that they are a bit bigger that is the primary appeal – that and the survivability if you drop or knock them over that means that plastic wins out for… Read more »
Painting minis is somthing that you should enjoy if you dont then you should find another way to get painted stuff on the table
As for plastic over metal Im an Infinity player and yer it takes some work to build the metal minis but there latest ones are so much better than the old ones to build and i have not see any plastics that can come close to what they are doing for detail one piece minis are good but you get a compromise over the pose in order to be able to mold them in one piece
plastics over metal everyday.
Great show and Happy Sunday!